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To: Vigilanteman

You know I disagree with the Supreme Courts interpretation of the 14th Amendment right? I just want to clear that up because I have people coming at me as if I agree with it.

I do not believe the 14th Amendment was ever envisioned to grant citizenship to hordes of illegal aliens swarming across the border. But that is how it is being interpreted, and we don’t have the votes on the court to change that right now.

So okay, do you think Congress is going to declare the issue of birthright off limits to the Supreme Court? I mean, really, do you see that happening? Do you see the Legislative and Executive telling the Supreme Court to sod off? I’d be fine with that, but I know it won’t happen on this issue. In the absolute best of circumstances I doubt you could get even half of the Republicans to go along for political reasons.

So with that in mind the constitutional amendment is pretty much out too. What’s left? I can only see a change in the court balance reversing the birthright citizenship opinion held by the court and accepted as law by the other 2 branches of government. We’d need 4-5 of judges. That you might be able to get through if we had a large enough Senate majority to go for it (we would need a majority of Republicans that would vote for such nominees and that assumes we get rid of the filibuster for Supreme Court appointments) and the Executive branch they could simply approve the President’s nominations even if some of the judges positions weren’t popular in the polls. Basically Senators might be willing to let Judges do the proverbial “dirty work” that they’d never do themselves.

I just don’t see birthright citizenship overturned any other way. If you can see a different way of accomplishing this, something realistic, by all means tell me.


115 posted on 08/16/2015 3:30:03 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
The GOP always starts out so reasonable and ends up giving the Democrats 98% of what they want and call it compromise. Just for once, we should do as they do and demand everything and call it compromise when they only get 40% or so of what they want and we get something meaningful in exchange.

i.e. Accept "birthright citizenship" for the time being in exchange for a path to green cards (not citizenship) for a limited number of illegals and deportation of the portion which 80% of America agrees is undesirable (criminals, chronic wards of the state, etc.)

128 posted on 08/16/2015 5:10:33 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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