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To: Red Steel

What Eastman says is what I have thought... it just started. But someone had to wonder if giving such citizenship was legal? Did someone in some courthouse just start by issuing a Birth Certificate and seeing what happened? How do you have your citizenship? I have nothing other than my Birth Certificate that started the assumption that I am a citizen.

Some counties in South Texas are now refusing to issue Birth Certificates to children of illegals... bully for them.

Still, what does Eastman have to say about U.S. vs. Ark? It seems that has to be addressed. I will read the article carefully.

I think SCOTUS was wrong in 1898... SCOTUS has proven to be wrong often and instead of applying the law have interpreted it for the time at hand and the public opinion of the time at hand... they have done this for a long, long time.


134 posted on 08/16/2015 1:34:57 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I don’t think Eastman or Erle went there in this article.

I’d say that they believe the same as you that the 1898 Wong Ark decision was in error.


135 posted on 08/16/2015 1:41:15 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Sequoyah101
You may want to see this one too.

Recently another expert agrees with the others, including many here who have studied this, while he testified in front of Congress says and agrees with the other experts on the 14th Amendment. Illegal immigration births being citizens are not found in the 14th Amend:

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"Approximately 350,000 to 400,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the U.S. each year. Due to current policy, all automatically become U.S. citizens, Center for Immigration Studies legal policy analyst Jon Feere testified before a House panel Wednesday.

“To put this in perspective this means that one out of 10 births in the U.S. is to an illegal immigrant mother,” Freere said at a House Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security hearing titled “Birthright Citizenship: Is It The Right Policy For America?”

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“It is unlikely that Congress intended such a broad application of the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause, and the Supreme Court has only held that children born to citizens or permanently domiciled immigrants must be considered U.S. citizens at birth. Some clarity from Congress would be helpful in resolving this ongoing debate,” Feere said. "

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/29/expert-up-to-400k-children-born-to-illegal-immigrants-in-u-s-annually-one-in-10-births/

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I bet he thinks it's more like "highly" unlikely as in no chance it's there....

143 posted on 08/17/2015 10:43:14 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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