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To: Melinator

I never said any of them were not smart - I did say, and I stand by the fact, that being born a millionaire many times over and becoming a billionaire by using aggressive bankruptcy laws does NOT MEAN NECESSARILY you are SMART ABOUT THE OVER ALL ECONOMY. Nor does it mean you are not smart either. Accumulating personal wealth is a fantastic talent, but is not the same as understanding the macro economy.

I also think it’s absurd for you to say the Kochs want to destroy America. They are not assuming it’s Trump or Jeb, and neither am I. I just don’t buy that. Jeb v Trump is a false choice.

Trump will not be a black swan for the Kochs - you are letting one issue, that’s probably not even something that effects Koch Industries - get in the way of all other evidence.

And again, i’m sorry, I totally reject that it’s Trump or Jeb or Hillary. Totally reject it. Have NEVER thought Jeb would go far and have ALWAYS thought Hillary would never win the Oval, maybe not even her nomination. If you think it’s those three only, I can see how you support Trump. It’s just an absurd position.


52 posted on 08/12/2015 3:42:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thank you for your response.

In my view, the masterminds behind the ongoing destruction of America require whomever gets elected, DNC, or GOP, to carry on with the Obama gameplan. Ie. They need TTP, OBAMACARE, CAP N TRADE, and AMNESTY for the game to continue. They have trillions riding on it and do not want to leave anything to chance. Thus the only acceptable candidates to them are sold out, establishment clones like Hillary and Jeb.

I may very well be too jaded, but i think the GOPe has set up their primary run in such a way that splits support between the candidates. As various weak players make gains along the way, but remain too weak to win overall, they will drop out and throw their votes and money to Senor Boosh, until he rains the last one standing. So long as he is selected as the Republican candidate, the masterminds do not care which party wins because both sides will give them exactly what they want.

This not an esoteric idea and in fact “sundance” over at conservative treehouse has an extremely good and detailed analysis of the mechanics.

The one thing the GOPe and DNC “uniparty” cannot accept is an outsider who cannot be bought or otherwise controlled.

So after years of very careful planning by the masterminds, along comes Trump and drops his hat in the ring. The screams of outrage from all sides are growing by the day quite simply because they know that if he gets elected their plans for global warming, TTP and amnesty are kaput.

Trump is not wall street, he is main street. He doesn’t make his money by raking spreads, he makes it by building businesses. They cannot shut him up and if they killed him now, Americans would likely burn down D.C.

Now, i am not suggesting he wont have an accident, but the kinds of people behind the games being played here routinely fight wars when it is seem as a financial or political benefit. Frankly, even if he gets the nomination i dont see him being allowed to take the Presidency.

Without Trump, the uniparty carries on as before with slight, unimportant variations, no matter who is elected. Cruz will not get the nod unless he sells out. Notice he has already said yes to TTP. With Trump, who has wide appeal to liberals, conservatives and independents, at least i can hope for meaningful change.

P.S. On the topic of worldwide economics, it may already be over for America given what Obama and wall street have done to her. 19 trillion debt, 250 trillion going forward, and China has just devalued the Yuan. Russia Iran China... Maybe no election at all. It is that serious.


56 posted on 08/12/2015 8:14:11 AM PDT by Melinator (my 2 cents)
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