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It’s Time to Haul Down Another Flag of Racist Hate [The POW/MIA Flag ]
Newsweek ^ | 08/11/2015 | BY RICK PERLSTEIN

Posted on 08/11/2015 11:44:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: AlphaOneAlpha

I wouldn’t stand in the way. Whatever VN vets want to do with him is good by me.


21 posted on 08/11/2015 12:06:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Read the whole article.

Basically a pro-Communist screed — which does not tie the POW/MIA flag to racism.

Unbelievable that anyone would take the stance adopted by Mr. Perlstein — let alone see it published in a nationally recognized outlet.

Just my opinions of course.


22 posted on 08/11/2015 12:06:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah I enjoyed the walk down memory lane. Vietnam launched the left on it’s communist loving, America hating rampage through our culture.

We even have here the racist ideological hatred of the South Vietrnamese (our allies of course) and the total pass given to the terrorist, evil despotic communist North Vietnamese invaders.

Seems like just yesterday America was bamboozled to walk down an evil path by scum like the author of this article.


23 posted on 08/11/2015 12:07:38 PM PDT by Williams
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To: SeekAndFind

I knew once Nikki Haley failed to defend the Southern heritage by calling for the CBF’s removal, the bloodhounds would be back. The malcontents are never satisfied no matter how irrational.

Ann Coulter was right - Haley knows very little and appreciates even less about what that flag represents.

Now this. The more ground we give up, the harder it will be to set things right.


24 posted on 08/11/2015 12:09:33 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And they’re not heroes! Donald is the hero! Donald was so courageous, he avoided the politically correct conservative draft. [Shovelful of steaming irony and sarcasm there.]


25 posted on 08/11/2015 12:11:05 PM PDT by familyop ("Survey Monkey:...pistol whipped unconscious...laying face down on the group.")
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To: All

Well, “Mr” Perlstein, explain to all of us just exactly how much time you’ve spent in the military...Exactly how much time you’ve spent in a war zone...Exactly how much time you spent in beautiful SE Asia in the ‘60’s and early ‘70’s...Exactly how many family members of MIA/POW’s that you personally know....

Please tell us all....


26 posted on 08/11/2015 12:11:59 PM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: colorado tanker
"Who is this idiot?"

From Wikipedia:

Eric S. "Rick" Perlstein (born 1969) is an American historian and journalist. He is a former writer for The Village Voice and The New Republic. He has also written for Mother Jones, The Nation, and many other magazines. He also wrote a political column for RollingStone.com in 2012.

Photo of Rick Perlstein:

He is also a plagarist:

Rick Perlstein: Probable Plagiarist, Definite Jerk (National Review)

27 posted on 08/11/2015 12:14:26 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Leaning Right
It's actually (among other things) a shot at Nixon.

Yep. The left is still hatin' Nixon, after all these years.

28 posted on 08/11/2015 12:16:00 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: SeekAndFind
Try Newsweek for only $1.25 per week

Any takers?

29 posted on 08/11/2015 12:18:48 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: SeekAndFind
During the Nixon years, the Pentagon moved them into a newly invented “Missing in Action” column.
So there were no MIAs in WWI, WWII or Korea? BS
30 posted on 08/11/2015 12:19:49 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well.....Ricky......

ya just might have a harder time puttin’ that one away.

Waaaayyy too many of us who served in that era that can still shoot straight....


31 posted on 08/11/2015 12:20:22 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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To: SeekAndFind
How 'bout this one?


32 posted on 08/11/2015 12:20:41 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“the better to paint the North Vietnamese as uniquely cruel and inhumane”

Unique? Probably not. Most communist dictatorships get their jollies beating and torturing helpless prisoners.

Cruel and Inhumane? Ask any POW who spent time in the Hanoi Hilton about that, bub. The ones who survived to come back and tell their stories, at least.

What a jackwagon. Ranks right up there with Tom Harkin’s comments about nothing really bad happening to the South Vietnamese when the North took over.


33 posted on 08/11/2015 12:22:01 PM PDT by DemforBush (Ex-Democrat, and NotforJeb. Just so we're clear.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am pretty certain the label "MIA" was given to aircrew where someone witnessed a "good chute", conferring the individual survived the aircraft damage, bailed out or ejected, and appeared to be alive under the parachute.

If an airplane simply exploded or crashed, the individual was assumed KIA.

Again from Wikipedia:

Following the Paris Peace Accords of 1973, 591 U.S. prisoners of war were returned during Operation Homecoming. The U.S. listed about 1,350 Americans as prisoners of war or missing in action and roughly 1,200 Americans reported killed in action and body not recovered.

By the early 1990s, this had been reduced to a total of 2,255 unaccounted for from the war, which constituted less than 4 percent of the total 58,152 U.S. service members killed. This was by far the smallest proportion in the nation's history to that point.

This does not sound like some Nixonian conspiracy.

34 posted on 08/11/2015 12:22:54 PM PDT by magellan
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To: SeekAndFind

or the same goes for the POW-MIA flag.

35 posted on 08/11/2015 12:23:59 PM PDT by yoe
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To: SeekAndFind

Newsweek’s Rick Perlstein can kiss my hairy ass! He’ll have to get through me to get to my POW/MIA flag!


36 posted on 08/11/2015 12:28:53 PM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Williams
Ah I enjoyed the walk down memory lane. Vietnam launched the left on it’s communist loving, America hating rampage through our culture.

Really, it has been longer than that. While it has grown in that time, look at the Left's rants on the conviction of that STATESMAN Alger Hiss or the executions of INNOCENT Rosenbergs (Ethel especially!) Look at the reaction to the Truman Doctrine and how it mistreated the Socialist Worker's Paradise (Russia)!

While there is no longer guaranteed funding from Comintern, there have always been the Marxist Capitalist like Hammer and Soros to rouse the rabble for revolution!

WHAT I WILL AGREE with your statement is that since Vietnam the liberal left has become entrenched in academia, journalism, the arts and government. This has made them, the left, all too entrenched and powerful!

37 posted on 08/11/2015 12:33:21 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Williams

” America was bamboozled to walk down an evil path by scum like the author of this article.”

The Butterfly Effect

January 30, 1968 is an important date in American History, but very few Americans are aware it. Since the birth of our Republic, there have been a number of significant events that have drastically affected our country’s future development and wellbeing. Some of these events were immediately recognized as significant but others took more time, and the damage caused to our country by the “Butterfly Effect” spawned by the 1968 Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War is just now beginning to be realized by a few of us who were there. Those who were there know all too well the meaning of Tet and what occurred during Tet 1968 and its aftermath, but for those who weren’t there, let me explain.

During the Vietnam War, the Chinese New Year celebration was called Tet and it was the only holiday the Vietnamese celebrated during the year. The Tet celebration lasted for two weeks, and it wasn’t just a time for drinking, feasting, and partying, it was a time for family reunions where Vietnamese traveled great distances to be with their families during these two weeks.

Prior to Tet 1967, a truce had been negotiated with the Communists, and both sides had agreed to a cease-fire during the two week Tet 1967 holiday. The Communists had honored this mutually agreed upon truce and had maintained a cease-fire throughout the 1967 two week Tet celebration, but we had observed them blatantly moving troops and equipment in the open without fear of attack from us.
In 1968, the South Vietnamese Government negotiated another truce with the Communists and both sides agreed to another cease-fire again for Tet 1968. The Communists had profited greatly from the previous Tet 1967 cease-fire when they had used the cease-fire to resupply and refit their units in the field without interference from U.S. air and artillery strikes, so we fully expected them to honor their agreed upon Tet 1968 cease-fire, as it was fully to their advantage to do so, or so we thought at the time.

However, the Communists used this 1968 mutually agreed upon cease-fire to infiltrate its Viet Cong combat units into all major cities in South Vietnam under the cover of the extensive pre-holiday travel that preceded Tet, when many Vietnamese returned home to be with their families during the Tet holidays. This Communist infiltration was in preparation for simultaneous attacks throughout South Vietnam at midnight on January 30, 1968. An estimated fifteen Viet Cong battalions, to include the entire Viet Cong 9th Division with its 271st, 272nd, and 273rd Regiments, were infiltrated to positions in and around Saigon with the intent of capturing South Vietnam’s Capitol. For some reason, we had forgotten that all Communists are “Ends Justify the Means” liars, and in the end, it cost us the war.

The 1968 Tet Offensive was a coordinated “Do or Die” attack by every Viet Cong unit in Vietnam on the night of January 30 and the morning of January 31, 1968 that simultaneously struck every South Vietnamese City, village, and military installation in an attempt to win the war in one country wide surprise attack; they failed and they paid the price for their failure; they died. The annihilation of Viet Cong units was carried out by American and South Vietnamese combat units throughout South Vietnam and was a disaster for the Communist insurgency, as it never recovered from its loses. The war was carried on after Tet 1968 by invading North Vietnamese, and North Vietnam could never move sufficient troops down the Ho Chi Minh Trail to ever hope to defeat the United States effort in South Vietnam, so they resorted to their favorite Communist tactic; they lied.

1968 was a Presidential Election year in the United States, and the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) attempted to use the Tet Offensive to influence the election by claiming it was a Communist victory and the war was lost. The CPUSA organized an anti-war movement and assembled enough strength through this movement to seize control of the Democrat Party that summer during the 1968 Democrat Convention in Chicago. These Communists attempted to nominate a Presidential candidate who would end the war and they failed, but the CPUSA still retained control of the Democrat Party, and this Party managed to elect enough Leftist Democrats to Congress to cut funding for the Vietnam War, American troops were withdrawn, and the war was then lost, so in this way the 1968 Tet Offensive was indeed a Communist victory.

After using the Tet Offensive to gain control of the Democrat Party, the Communist Party USA never lost control, and when a few decades later they managed to elect an avowed Marxist Communist to the Presidency of the United States, it made the 1968 Tet Offensive the greatest Communist victory of all time.

Now, every American will learn what I learned on the morning of January 31, 1968:

All Communists are ends justify the means liars (period)

Donald J. Taylor
a Vietnam Veteran


38 posted on 08/11/2015 12:33:47 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: equaviator

I notice that you have placed the staff of the White and Black checkered flag ABOVE the staff of the Black and White checkered flag.


39 posted on 08/11/2015 12:45:46 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: SeekAndFind

I played close attention to what was happening with Vietnam as my friends and I were of draft age toward the end of the war. I don’t remember Nixon arguing that we were fighting to bring the prisoners home. I do remember him struggling to find a way to put enough pressure on the North to agree to a deal he and Kissinger could sell as an honorable peace giving South Vietnam a chance to survive. Returning the prisoners was part of that package, but I don’t recall the North’s negotiators ever making that a contentious issue. The shape of the table, yes, but that’s another story . . .


40 posted on 08/11/2015 12:47:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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