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T.D. Jakes Comes Out for ‘Gay Marriage’ [Matthew 13 - Great Last Days Bundling]
Christian News Network ^ | 8/7/2015 | Heather Clark

Posted on 08/09/2015 9:28:17 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Megachurch leader and author T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.”

During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist. “Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”

Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle. “LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bible; blackchurch; gay; homosexuality; megachurch; religiousleft; sodomy; tdjakes
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Agreed!


21 posted on 08/09/2015 9:50:47 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Obadiah

See my post #11. TD Jakes has never been right with the Word of God. It is not surprising that he would depart on homosexuality if he cannot even get the Godhead right.


22 posted on 08/09/2015 9:53:28 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

T.D. Jakes has always had issues with homosexuality. Preaching Ruth and Naomi were lesbians and David and Jonathan were homosexuals. His sons issues not withstanding. Then there is the witness of a former associate pastor in his ministry who was destroyed after allegedly turning down Jakes advances. Jake states “sometimes too much light hurts the eyes!” after he was turned down.

Nothing but a wolf.

He has always stated that his selling of Christian books and related items are separate from his ministry to justify his business and wealth as being separate from his ministry.

here’s a link with details of Jakes background and issues.

https://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-becomes-a-conduit-for-false-homosexual-theology/


23 posted on 08/09/2015 10:03:53 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

it’s one thing to receive the ZOT here on
FR, but to be on the receiving end of G_d’s ZOT is something that ol’ T.D. Jake$ should be trembling over.


24 posted on 08/09/2015 10:12:09 AM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Hmm... thanks. Didn’t know that was his position.


25 posted on 08/09/2015 10:13:35 AM PDT by Obadiah (Mr. Obama, the time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.)
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To: Sheapdog

I am always very, very reluctant to openly criticize those who proclaim Christ. But my spirit has long been troubled by this guy. He just always seemed a bit “off” but I never studied him.


26 posted on 08/09/2015 10:17:17 AM PDT by Obadiah (Mr. Obama, the time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.)
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To: Sheapdog
This is why doctrine is so important. If a person cannot get the foundational doctrines of salvation correct, like the Biblical Godhead, they will err on other things as well...

1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

1 Corinthians 15:33 Be not deceived : evil communications corrupt good manners.

27 posted on 08/09/2015 10:17:42 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Sheapdog

BTW, thank you for the information!


28 posted on 08/09/2015 10:21:01 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Russell D. Moore, dean of the school of theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said he takes “Bishop Jakes at his word that he holds to Trinitarianism.”

“But there’s still some elephants left in the room,” Moore said. “First of all, Bishop Jakes isn’t a new convert being discipled in the basics of the Christian faith. He is a celebrity mega-church pastor. Moreover, Trinitarianism isn’t the ‘meat’ of some advanced doctrine, but the most foundational doctrine of the Christian faith. A Christian pastor affirming least-common-denominator Christian doctrine should hardly be news, much less an elephant in the room. This can only happen in an American evangelicalism that values success, novelty and celebrity more than church accountability.”

Moore added, “There still stands the issue of the prosperity gospel Bishop Jakes preaches. Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Copeland are Trinitatians but their health and wealth gospel is different from the message of Jesus and His apostles.”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2012/january/td-jakes-embraces-doctrine-of-trinity-moves-away-from.html

Given he is shaky on the Trinity (to the point of rejecting it, IMHO), and preaches the prosperity gospel, is there any reason to expect orthodoxy on any issue?


29 posted on 08/09/2015 10:26:03 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
“LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined.

“The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,” Jakes added.

So find a church or start a church to reaffirm your beliefs and sins; satan worship, adultery, pedophilia,......

He apparently didn't look up to Bonhoeffer.

30 posted on 08/09/2015 10:27:10 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“And again, “THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Hebrews 10:30-31


31 posted on 08/09/2015 10:30:08 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

1 Timothy 4:1


32 posted on 08/09/2015 10:32:32 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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To: Linda Frances

Great point! Most of these TV preachers would not know Bonhoeffer, let alone his insights for us!


33 posted on 08/09/2015 10:36:46 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: BwanaNdege

Amen!


34 posted on 08/09/2015 10:38:37 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

**While TD Jakes was certainly a charismatic and powerful speaker, he never renounced his Sabellianism (or Modalism), a heretical teaching that God was one Person, not three in one. TD Jakes and other “oneness” pentacostals reject the historic and fundamental view of the Trinity.**

You want historical? Read the scripture, and find Jesus Christ, or the apostles and writers of the NT, using the phrase “God the Son” or “God the Holy Spirit” (Ghost). They don’t.

God the Father is IN Christ, and Christ is IN God the Father. God the Father is NOT another image, but a Spirit, and invisible. The image of the Son is image of the invisible God. It’s HOW God displayed his attributes to mankind on THEIR level.

Everything divine flows from the Father. He has placed all authority and power in his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things. The Son INHERRITTED it all, including his name. You can’t inherit something you’ve always and forever had. The ‘separate and distinct, co-equal, co-eternal three persons trinity’ is part of the Roman system. It’s that simple.

I don’t know Jakes heart. I’d never heard of the man until maybe a ten years ago. I DO KNOW that ministers go astray; for Paul warned the Christian men that came from Ephesus (to hear him for the last time) that even from among their ranks would false teachers arise, teaching heresies, and leading followers away from the truth.


35 posted on 08/09/2015 10:42:41 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Obadiah

I used to try to give these TV preachers the benefit of the doubt... but it seems like most of them do very little proclaiming of Christ. It’s sad and it tarnishes the image of the ministry for all the true Christian pastors out there.


36 posted on 08/09/2015 10:59:22 AM PDT by theoriginaljdp (Check yo mama's privilege!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Matt 24:24


37 posted on 08/09/2015 11:07:25 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; . . . . Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit." 1 Thess 4:1-8
38 posted on 08/09/2015 11:17:14 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:21)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Big surprise. Jakes is nothing but a fraud anyway.


39 posted on 08/09/2015 11:18:31 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

For the love of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the root of ALL evil.


40 posted on 08/09/2015 11:31:43 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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