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Man jailed for 30 years and mother of two gets 28 years for insulting 'revered' Thai monarchy on FB
The Daily Mail ^ | August 7, 2016 | Jay Akbar

Posted on 08/09/2015 1:33:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Terry L Smith
No embassy could get you out of a Thai jail.

True, but our "No Sweat" Cards would keep you out of jail.

21 posted on 08/09/2015 4:46:41 AM PDT by ASA Vet (My new Zombie Gun - Mossberg 930 SPX w/ Steamlight TLR-2 HL G)
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To: alieno nomine; angkor; Brian Allen; bsariwat; Central Scrutiniser; colorado tanker; expat1000; ...
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22 posted on 08/09/2015 4:47:43 AM PDT by ASA Vet (My new Zombie Gun - Mossberg 930 SPX w/ Steamlight TLR-2 HL G)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Norton II will soon sign an EO for a simiar policy.


23 posted on 08/09/2015 5:12:23 AM PDT by gasport (Immigration reform means arriving in air-conditioned comfort.)
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To: gasport

similar


24 posted on 08/09/2015 5:13:33 AM PDT by gasport (Immigration reform means arriving in air-conditioned comfort.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Thailand’s lese majeste laws are nothing to play with. Insulting royalty can land you in jail.

Indeed.

One has to remember though that the King/royalty is the one institution that holds the country together. It's the one thing almost every Thai agrees on. So when the "reds" and "yellows" battle it out for example, the winner eventually gets the royal stamp of approval and that typically ends much of the violence and strife (for awhile).

Having lived there years ago and returned fairly often (was there recently during the BKK shutdown and shortly after the coup that put General Prayut in power) I would say it is probably a good thing that the King is still able to act as a power broker the bulk of the public considers reasonably fair.

Really, for us, it would be like burning the American flag. We've had, at times, laws on the books to prosecute people who do that - and some want a constitutional amendment banning it. So while Thailand's lese majeste laws are strict, they are not so much an oddity if you compare the Thai King to other countries revered institutions or symbols.

25 posted on 08/09/2015 5:45:00 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

yes yes, with all their faults, Thai love their king!


26 posted on 08/09/2015 5:55:50 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow!

America would be at full employment, building prisons for those criticizing our monarchy......


27 posted on 08/09/2015 6:00:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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To: Fai Mao

>> Isn’t there a younger Thai Prince that was disinherited for marrying a German woman? <<

No, you’re thinking about the King’s oldest daughter, who went to school in California and married an American. She was estranged from her family for many years, but finally got divorced and went back to Thailand — where she is much loved today by the populace.

(Her son — half American — was drowned in the tsunami that hit ten years ago.)


28 posted on 08/09/2015 6:01:11 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Terry L Smith

Many years ago, I knew an NCO who’d been stationed at a comms facility in Thailand. One day he was in a local establishment, dropped some change accidentally and went to stop it with his foot. He realized to his horror that it was a Thai coin, and quickly picked it up and left. Don’t mess with their king.


29 posted on 08/09/2015 6:08:26 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (Tagline? I don't need no stinking tagline!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“ERRORS CEASING TO BE DANGEROUS WHEN IT IS PERMITTED FREELY TO CONTRA... {static}...


30 posted on 08/09/2015 6:13:22 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionally blank.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
>> don’t you dare criticize him <<

Thailand's deep reverence for the King, together with the associated lèse-majesté laws, constitutes a socio-political "tradeoff" that has served Thailand well. It's deceptively easy for us foreigners to tut-tut and criticize, but the Thai populace is basically satisfied.

In fact, without the King's moral authority, Thailand almost surely would long ago have been torn apart by civil war and communist guerilla activity. I think the King's role is the main reason that Thailand today is a pretty much a happy and successful country -- as compared to its basket-case nextdoor neighbors, Burma, Laos and Cambodia.

On the other hand, when the King dies and his son assumes the throne, all Hell could break loose. So if you've been postponing a tour of Thailand, best to go soon. Five or ten years from now may be too late. Seriously.

31 posted on 08/09/2015 6:20:58 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: elcid1970
>> The Thai government enforces reverence for their king like he was Kim Jong-Un <<

Really, there's not much enforcement needed, because the overwhelming majority of the Thai people seem genuinely to love and respect the King.

(I've been there 20-plus times, beginning in 1967. So I speak from experience.)

And by the way, the King periodically pardons people jailed under the lèse-majesté law. So there's no way these two citizens will serve anywhere close to 28 or 30 years. Probably more like one or two years.

32 posted on 08/09/2015 6:34:25 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Terry L Smith

“No embassy could get you out of a Thai jail.”
The last place I’d look for help if I was in a Thai jail would be the US Embassy. The United States State Department pursues the interests of the United States State Department.

Sometimes those interests coincide with the interests of the United States and its people, but only sometimes.


33 posted on 08/09/2015 8:56:19 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anyone who has been to Thailand knows you don’t mess around with this law. And you had better stand for the national anthem before the movie.


34 posted on 08/09/2015 10:50:50 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Fai Mao

no, you are thinking of the 3rd ( Crown princess , Ubolratana ) who once once disavowed for marrying an American man . Now divorced and now reinstated in the good graces of the Royal family . She has some exceptional ‘luuk krung’ kids .
You know ‘luuk krung’ ? Obama types


35 posted on 08/09/2015 10:59:06 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

oh , you mean the same U.S. Embassy in Thailand that does it’s level best to keep every possible beautiful Thai woman from getting a U.S. visa ? While at the same time their counterparts in Middle eastern countries virtually hand visas out like cheap lunch tickets at a promotional ?
Unless things have changed , and I doubt it , the USE in BGK is staffed with pretty despicable people


36 posted on 08/09/2015 11:01:54 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: colorado tanker
I read your comment about standing at the movie and it reminded me of an incident in a Bangkok movie theater when I lived there for a short time in the late 80's. When the anthem began, and the picture of the king was on the screen, everyone stood except for a small group of French soldiers who appeared to be drunk. A few people asked them to stand but they refused and began verbally abusing the Thai's around them. Right after the anthem ended, the film stopped, the lights came on, and the police entered the theater to remove the drunk frenchies who refused to stand.

The Thai family I was with explained that this was appropriate action and that disrespect to the King was never tolerated. Yeah, I guess. The movie was the original Die Hard and every seat, other than where the french had been sitting, was filled. Good times.

37 posted on 08/09/2015 11:32:19 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

dear flash,

the U.S. at the time, while engaged in the Vietnam War, did not have, notr make any agreement with the Thai government, as to the extraction of American personnel from any Thai jails. Reason being, that we were ‘invited’ to their country, so we were always ‘guests’, although we had over 100 B-52’s, KC-135’s, C-130’s, o-2’s, and an occasional u-2, when compared to the Thai naval SU-16, one each, and the five T-33 jet fighters stationed there.


38 posted on 08/09/2015 12:24:43 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Mase

Call me crazy but I really enjoy visiting Bangkok.


39 posted on 08/09/2015 12:37:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Yes, I am the king of the sex-tourism capital of the world. You dare not criticize my moral authority.”


40 posted on 08/09/2015 1:43:55 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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