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To: markomalley

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.


2 posted on 07/25/2015 12:37:47 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

The Constitution. You still reading that ol’ thing?


4 posted on 07/25/2015 12:38:56 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Vaquero

Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state.


6 posted on 07/25/2015 12:39:32 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Vaquero

May we call the practice of homosexual behavior “distasteful” and “poor impulse control”? Most of what people do not like about homosexuals is the sometimes blatant “public displays of affection” and often arrogant efforts to shove our faces in the spectacle. Not “sinful”, but definitely very bad manners.

Do it, keeping it behind closed doors and blinds, and shut up about it. Don’t do it, keeping it behind closed doors and blinds, and shut up about it.

Just shut up about it.


14 posted on 07/25/2015 12:45:15 PM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: Vaquero

Yeah, but this is about the state hiring pastors in a counseling role.

Something completely different.


40 posted on 07/25/2015 1:13:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Vaquero
Consitution, Schmonstitution. The Federal government doesn't obey it, so why should the states? This is a direct result of disregarding the Founders' plans. And now, we have homosexuality set up and supported by the States and the Federal government.

May God punish America good and hard for this. If Sodom deserved it, America REALLY deserves it.

48 posted on 07/25/2015 1:19:40 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Vaquero
How can the state argue with the following syllogism:

1) Sin is any want of conformity or transgression of the law of God.

2)The law of God forbids any human sexual activity that is not between a man and woman who are married to each other.

Conclusion: Fornication, adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, and incest are all sins.

77 posted on 07/25/2015 1:54:01 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: Vaquero

Actually, the 1A specifies Congress shall make no law.

Thus, apparently does that apply strictly only to the feds.

Witness the numerous laws on local level barring obscenity, porn, etc. over the centuries, not just recently, not much has ever been made over thise laws.


122 posted on 07/25/2015 2:43:39 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Vaquero; editor-surveyor

The following is NOT endorsing the State’s position at all, but trying to help all understand their LEGAL position.

“Illegal” and terms such as that operate within the framework of Law

“Insane’ (for example) is medical framework term.

“Speed’ exists within a mathematical framework.

“Sin/Sinful’ exist within a religious framework.

1; To use the term “sinful” in describing GLQTDDMMEUAW!@#! behavior is trying to “impress’ the speaker’s religious beliefs upon the listener, who may, under the 1st Amendment, wish to be free of religion, as well as to have freedom of religion, both of which are rights guaranteed to everyone under the USC.

2: The State’s second argument would be, “our house, our rules.”

The above, not to agree, but to help all understand the LEGAL issues.


172 posted on 07/25/2015 5:29:07 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East ("We Must All Hang Together, or Assuredly We Will All Hang Separately" B. Franklin)
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To: Vaquero

And SCOTUS established a new religion where marriage means, well, whatever we say it means, today.


187 posted on 07/25/2015 6:01:31 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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