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To: Longbow1969
LOL, are you really this easy to manipulate? Trump's promises mean nothing. Trump's policy positions mean nothing. He has all but admitted he takes whatever position he needs to benefit himself at any particular moment in time. He is playing the caricature of a grass roots conservative because he sees an opening in doing so right now, at this moment in time. There is no telling what positions Trump would have if he weren't trying to con people into voting for him. Maybe he'd go back to his liberal positions of just a few years ago when he was busy fawning (and contributing) to Hillary Clinton and telling us all how well Obama would do in the White House?

Can you seriously not see that he will never keep to his current supposedly conservative positions? Those are the positions he takes when he wears his politician hat. Once Hillary is safely in the White House and Trump has flip flopped all over again to get in the good graces of the NY liberal establishment, he'll just claim (with typical Trump flair and bombast) that he had to take those conservative positions because it's what he needed to do to get votes - but now that he is back to being in real estate he puts on the new hat with all new positions.

I agree with your assessment of Trump and the people who fall for his act. How soon they forget that he was attacking Republicans in 2012 for being anti-amnesty and donating to the Clinton foundation.

The trouble is, while I have no sympathy for Trump's candidacy, I have plenty of sympathy for those who want a third party alternative. The GOP keeps trying to scare us with "vote for our establishment candidates or else you'll get Hillary," which is a stupid threat when you realize that their candidates of choice agree with Hillary on more issues than they disagree.

Take immigration as an issue. The only GOP candidate who has been fairly consistently anti-amnesty is Cruz (though he's also been fairly mealy-mouthed about it), and he's not doing well in the polls, mainly because the conservative vote has been so splintered. That's why people who want something done about this issue are grasping at any straw they can find, even Trump.

158 posted on 07/23/2015 9:22:38 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
The trouble is, while I have no sympathy for Trump's candidacy, I have plenty of sympathy for those who want a third party alternative.

I WISH there could be a viable 3rd party - heck I wish their was a whole basket of political party's that, even if they couldn't win, could partner with other party's and build coalition governments. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF SYSTEM. I wish we did, I don't really like our winner take all, no coalitions possible election system - but you, me and everyone else that yammers on about 3rd party's every election cycle need to commune with the founding fathers about that. Our system is designed for 2 party's. On the super rare occasion one of them implodes, the replacement party just becomes the 2nd leg of the two party system. In our system you will virtually ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils in general elections. Very rarely will you ever be voting for candidates you genuinely like. That is the nature of the type of electoral system we have.

166 posted on 07/23/2015 10:54:26 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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