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Ex-Georgia deputy sheriff indicted in flash-bang raid that maimed toddler
cnn.com ^ | July 22, 2015 | Stephanie Gallman

Posted on 07/22/2015 7:07:43 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments

...Based on the erroneous information she presented, which also included claims of "heavy traffic in and out of the residence," the judge issued Autry a "no knock" search warrant.

When a SWAT team executing that warrant found the front door blocked, one of the officers tossed a flash-bang grenade inside the residence. Once inside the home, the SWAT team realized a portable playpen had been blocking the door, and the flash-bang grenade had landed where a 19-month-old was sleeping, eventually exploding on the child's pillow.

The toddler spent weeks in a burn unit in a medically induced coma.

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To: Forgotten Amendments

the problem is with the training these police get and the procedures they follow. the people responsible for that are the ones who always escape punishment because none of us ever find out who they are.


21 posted on 07/22/2015 8:27:13 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: TangibleDisgust
the problem is with the training these police get and the procedures they follow

I disagree. The problem is that they aren't held personally responsible for their actions. No matter what they do the odds are that at most they will receive a suspension. No responsibility = free to do whatever they want.

Flip the scenario and imagine what would have happened to the householders if they'd thrown a grenade that injured one of the precious police. They'd be buried under the jail if the police didn't kill them outright.

22 posted on 07/22/2015 8:41:08 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Enterprise
As for the other officers, unless they also knew that the warrant had been issued based on false information, they have a qualified immunity.

Anyone want to lay odds that they didn't know? I realize that proving this would be impossible unless one of them actually developed a conscience (fat chance) and informed on the others.

23 posted on 07/22/2015 8:48:14 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
I completely agree. How many cops would actually stop and think before they pulled some bulls@#$ like this if they knew their personal hide would be on the line, facing civil suits and prison time for violating people?

Even when they DO get scapegoated and fired, they either get their pension, or move 2 towns over and get re-hired.

24 posted on 07/22/2015 8:56:07 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Perhaps most disturbing is a report from the Washington Post that “the Drug task force that killed an innocent pastor in 2009 also involved in burned toddler story.”

The Post further reports that the drug task force that conducted the alleged drug buy and investigation of the accused drug dealer, Wanis Thonetheva, who was the target of the raid that severely injured Bounkham Phonesavanh, is the same unit that was responsible for the death of pastor Jonathan Ayers during a raid conducted in 2009. The Post reports:

In September 2009, the young pastor Ayers was ministering to a young woman whom a Georgia drug task force was investigating on drug charges. (She had allegedly sold an undercover officer $50 worth of cocaine.) When task force members saw Ayers alone in the car with the woman, they switched their focus to him. According to Ayers’s lawsuit, the woman was about to be evicted from the motel at which she was staying. Ayers gave her the $23 in his pocket to help cover her rent.

The task force followed Ayers to a convenience store, where he went in to get money from an ATM. When he returned and got into his car they pounced. They pulled up behind him in an unmarked black SUV. Armed agents dressed in street clothes then rushed Ayers’s car. He put his car in reverse and attempted to escape. In the process, he nicked one agent. Another then opened fire, killing him. Ayers told hospital staff was that he thought he was being robbed. His reported last words were, “Who shot me?”

At the time he was killed by police, Ayers’ wife was expecting their first child.

They must have thought they caught the Drug Kingpin. smh ...and to think, I grew up in rural Georgia. TbbtgoG.
25 posted on 07/22/2015 9:05:34 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: from occupied ga

it’s the training and procedures that give them immunity. they always say “i was just following procedure” and that’s what keeps them from getting into trouble. until you change that training and those procedures (which didn’t exist 30+ years ago), this will keep happening. even if you throw one of the cops under the bus to appease public outrage, they’ll just be replaced by another, trained the same way, and who will follow procedures. making the cop liable is not really the solution.

we are living in a police state and i hate it. so don’t mistake my comments for being a blanket defense of police, because it is not. we went from an era of beat cops walking the beat with night sticks to one where even the smallest departments in small town america have machine guns and armored tactical vehicles and SWAT teams being trained on military tactics. this change is what we are all reacting to. this happened without most of us really paying attention until one day we woke up in a country we don’t recognize anymore.

this lady cop - even though indicted - will be found not guilty because i can almost guarantee that she was following approved police procedure by tossing that flashbang into the house. that’s where the problem is. whether she was a good cop or an out of control cop won’t matter. her defense will be “following police procedure and training”. 99 times out of 100 that’s enough to hold a cop unaccountable for their actions.


26 posted on 07/22/2015 9:12:21 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: from occupied ga
"I realize that proving this would be impossible unless one of them actually developed a conscience (fat chance) and informed on the others."

You have assumed, on no rational basis that someone other than Autry knew the information given to the judge was false. Pathetic.

27 posted on 07/22/2015 9:43:42 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise; from occupied ga
You have assumed, on no rational basis that someone other than Autry knew the information given to the judge was false. Pathetic.

You know what I assume, based a very rational preponderance of the evidence? That 50% of the time the information is false or fabricated. And that 50% of those times the judges know it too. See, the judges get their salary, pensions and immunity from the same place the cops do.

You don't get that? Pathetic.

28 posted on 07/22/2015 10:02:06 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi
"That 50% of the time the information is false or fabricated. And that 50% of those times the judges know it too"

Marilyn Mosby is that you?

29 posted on 07/22/2015 10:17:40 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Had ENOUGH Yet ?

Enforce the Bill of Rights

It’s the LAW !!!

NO KNOCK is unconstitutional.......the judge as well as the cops need to do the Hemp Hop or the Jute jump; their choice


30 posted on 07/22/2015 10:28:27 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........)
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To: Enterprise

It’s always good to see the cop suckers come out of the woodwork to defend their heroes no matter how heinous the act. Maim a toddler? - not a problem. Murder an old woman? - not a problem. Shoot a black guy in the back and then plant a gun by the body? Hey he must have done something. I guess the taste of boot polish is just addictive to some people. Pathetic.


31 posted on 07/23/2015 3:49:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
It’s always good to see the cop haters come out of the woodwork.

"Maim a toddler? - not a problem. Murder an old woman? - not a problem. Shoot a black guy in the back and then plant a gun by the body? Hey he must have done something. I guess the taste of boot polish is just addictive to some people. Pathetic."

No one here has ever said that these things are no problem and you effing will know it. You cop haters assume beliefs and intentions that are not expressed. You never change. Why don't you go live with your friends in Ferguson, jackass.

32 posted on 07/23/2015 3:57:49 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
I love unintentional irony, and for providing it here is a little music dedicated to those who were "just following orders" to get a thrill running down your leg.
33 posted on 07/23/2015 4:11:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: donna
Ex-Georgia deputy sheriff indicted in flash-bang raid that maimed toddler

I'm so sorry for your loss.


34 posted on 07/23/2015 6:16:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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To: from occupied ga; Enterprise

Occupied, you know I’m on your side brah, but you’re being a twee bit unfair to Enterprise....He expressly says he thinks the abuses are a problem....


35 posted on 07/23/2015 6:18:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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To: from occupied ga

Just give it a re-think, is all...


36 posted on 07/23/2015 6:18:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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To: TangibleDisgust
it’s the training and procedures that give them immunity. they always say “i was just following procedure” and that’s what keeps them from getting into trouble.

You're probably right. Pity the Nazi's didn't come up with that one at the Nuremberg trials. Would have saved them a lot of trouble.

37 posted on 07/23/2015 6:20:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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To: Lazamataz

I gave it a rethink and considering that in the first post to me enterprise called me pathetic because I made the logical assumption that cops in the same little einsatzgrup would communicate with each other, I think I’ll stick with my position.


38 posted on 07/23/2015 6:25:20 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

You smoked another one out.


39 posted on 07/23/2015 6:30:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: from occupied ga

Be the bigger guy!

At 500 pounds, I know I am!


40 posted on 07/23/2015 6:32:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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