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To: elhombrelibre

People, just because a lot of the establishment GOP is lining up against Trump does not mean they are wrong. This guy is toxic and bad for the conservative movement. Besides, he’s no conservative!!! He was a Democrat only 6 years ago. He has written in support of universal healthcare and is a big supporter of the KELO decision so his casinos can be built by kicking homeowners off their properties. He unsuccessfully tried to do that in Georgia.

Finally, while I’m no big fan of John McCain, I highly respect his wartime service. You can’t take that away from him no matter what. For a guy who got 4 draft deferrments to go to college and avoid Vietnam to criticize someone’s Vietnam record is hypocritical and out of bounds in my book. Trump is a joke...


14 posted on 07/20/2015 4:39:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“Finally, while I’m no big fan of John McCain, I highly respect his wartime service.”

Trump didn’t slam all Vets. He spit on John McCain individually. Because you don’t like him, you knock him here and use this war hero issue to do so. Do you anti-Trump people realize what you are doing? You are trying to bring down the only guy out there verbalizing what we all supposedly think on the issues, including what we think about John McCain and that has always been virtually totally negative. McCain is who now you are inadvertently defending.

Juan McCain has been on the wrong side of many, many conservative issues to this very moment, and he is up for reelection and will probably win, as usual. McCain’s war hero status is so dubious that many Vets have spoken out against him over the years. The men who shared captivity at the same time as McCain in Viet Nam have spoken about what he said and did during this time period. As far as I can see it was bordering on collaboration with the enemy while in captivity. Bowe Bergdahl comes to mind as a more modern example.

First thing McCain did upon his return to the U.S. was to dump his wife that stood by him for all the years of his captivity for a young girl from a wealthy family (like John Kerry did by marrying Theresa Heinz, heir to a fortune) to help further his political career. I might add he is seldom ever seen with his wife Cindy (another politically convenient marriage ala the Clintons and John Kerry and his wife). McCain spends most of his time with his partner in crime, Lindsay Graham.

The MSM was all over this on the Sunday morning political shows, of course saying nothing about what elicited this response from Trump, that Juan McCain, amnesty supporter maximus, called all supporters of Trump who attended his anti-immigration rally in Arizona, “Crazies”. That’s us folks; McCain is calling all of us Crazies.

And now some here are slamming Trump, broadening out what he said to try to make his comment an anti-Vet one, which it isn’t and you know it, and elevating Juan McCain once again in the public eye, a man who is happy with the military getting less funding, is against strong interrogation of terrorists we have captured, and speaks about helping Vets while doing very little for their actual benefit. Juan McCain is less supportive of Vets than Donald Trump will be, who is very pro-Vet and will actually fund and help them. And yet you are inadvertantly supporting the true skunk at the party, McCain.

Let’s just say that the MSM, the Dems, the pro-immigration people, the GOPe, all of them our alleged enemies, have banded together to try to knock Trump out of the race, along with some Freepers who can’t see the forest through the trees. If they succeed, our one populist voice, more concerned with Main Street rather than K Street and Wall Street, will indeed be silenced. We will be left with a bunch of milquetoast candidates, all the zing and excitement will go out of these primaries if Trump is gone, and enthusiasm will fizzle out in short order on the conservative side. We will be setting ourselves up for losing the Presidency once again, or ending up with the establishment’s choice, Jeb Bush, as our flag bearer and eventual President.

Our one voice (with the exception of Ted Cruz who just can’t seem to get traction in this race but at least he’s smart enough to figure out that Trump is out there speaking the truth on today’s major issues) is the designated target. He is leading in the polls and thus must be eliminated. Trump is the one man where a very concerted effort is being made by Trump’s enemies; at this very moment they are desperately banding together to try to get Trump out of the race NOW. If they succeed, I can assure you that at that point I will go back to pre-Trump mentality, meaning I will have very little further interest in these primaries, and my enthusiasm will dwindle to minimal as will that of many, many others.

Can’t you see what our enemies are trying to do here? They are all out there trying to silence the one man who says what we think, is a doer, and is a fighter. Trump is a brave man, he is losing a lot personally by having entered this fray, he didn’t have to do this but has because he is a patriot and is fighting tooth and nail as did our forefathers, for the American way of life.

If his enemies succeed in getting Trump out of the race, we conservatives will be diminished and the GOPe will have won, and we will end up with Bush who stands to gain the most from Trump’s removal from the race. Jeb Bush will end up winning the primaries because no one else has the money to win with, other than Bush or Trump. Of course Bush will be beholden to many for his win, whereas Trump will be beholden to no one, as he is self funded.

You people must see what the true motives of our enemies are here in trying to bring down Trump. That motive is to get Jeb Bush in as the Pub candidate in the primaries, and thus maintain the status quo; the GOPe, corporatists and Wall Street interests, the globalists who will win whether either Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush are President. It will be a choice of two peas out of the same elitist pod. And the American mainstream will continue to suffer, ... that’s YOU.


23 posted on 07/20/2015 6:31:29 AM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Exactly. I’ll differ with you only to say I don’t give a rip about McCain.

However, I was told last night that Trump would be better than Hillary even though he’s probably a Democrat, and even if he is pro-abortion and pro-queer marriage. Some of the “conservatives” supporting him for the presidency no longer care that he’s a liberal and would pull the lever anyway.


26 posted on 07/20/2015 6:57:36 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
This guy is toxic and bad for the conservative movement. Besides, he’s no conservative!!!

I'm afraid you will get nowhere with the Trumpettes. Only bitter experience will teach them the lesson they need.

30 posted on 07/20/2015 8:47:10 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (Life's a bitch. Don't elect one.)
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