Posted on 07/19/2015 11:19:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
I like your word picture! ...simple, succinct!
Revoking instate tuition is a start!!!......
I wonder how the powers that be intend to force the illegals to go home and do it the right way?
About 10 years ago, I was going through this garbage for an alien spouse. I talked with an ICE agent. I told the guy I was pretty frustrated with this whole immigration mess. I just asked why I could not get the same rights as illegal aliens. Why did I have to go through this stupidity, when they could just walk across the border? He just said he didn't make the rules. I was even more frustrated after that.
I’m saying it. Whatever the Constitution describes with regard to citizenship, it is for situations of persons born to US citizen(s) abroad, or by the Naturalization process.
In the case of the “Naturalization” process, it does not say naturalizing (legalizing) persons who have entered this country illegally, period. That process is one of selection and choice by this government for candidates who have to meet a set of criteria. Criteria which not one illegal alien has met (you know, like background/criminal checks, proof or origin, health status, ability to support themselves, etc.).
What we get are the dregs of the third world with no tangible value added to this country save a vote for Democrats and cheap labor for big corporations.
To twist the intent and implications of the Constitution to fit a platform for a candidate seems to be backwards - badly backwards in my opinion. Further, to force the dilution of my country’s sovereignty by quibbling over the meaning of “amnesty”, “pathways” in the context of desperately trying to keep from saying the words “no citizenship - ever” is a deal breaker in my opinion.
Just once, I’d like to see an argument for “amnesty” or “pathway” or whatever it’s called today without using the obfuscating word “immigration”.
I apologize. I posted that before getting to the part where you answered others about who you support.
Do you intend to choose someone in the primaries or will you continue to hurl invectives at all of them! ;)
I get it that you want to keep them honest, but, let's be real....they are politicians.
I chose Walker because he does what he says and everything he enacted in Wisconsin is 100% conservative.
The only thing people have against Walker is twisting his words to mean things.
Well, I would rather support a candidate with a clear track record of conservatism than a candidate who has a weak or no track record but gives a good speech.
Walker and Cruz have addressed the current immigration system as broken and too difficult.
Both have advocated for a reform that includes making it easier and more rigorous to become a citizen.
Both favor citizenship for those who actually want it and want to join this nation, not for those who want to use this nation with no love of our freedoms.
I hope you ironed-out your spouse's issues?
I was really surprised to see that Walker and Trump have the same B+ score on immigration from NumbersUSA. That’s a tremendous site for immigration issues and advocacy.
Check out the chart.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/elections/races/presidential/2016-presidential-hopefuls.html
They’re both in big biz pockets.
But saying illegals have to go home for a visit with their family before getting in line for citizenship is still giving them amnesty for their having broken into and stolen from our country—which rightly disqualifies them from living here or becoming citizens.
Oh, and beyond your idiotic “spouse’s issues” comment, Cruz is for legalization of illegals here currently, which is bad enough, but only Walker favors citizenship for them.
At least Cruz’s expansion of legal immigration would favor the smart and the skilled, rather than the criminal/peasant class that we’re getting presently.
Illegal aliens ignored the path we have. That’s why they are illegal aliens and not immigrants.
Path to citizenship is amnesty. Period.
You’re right, Mark—that is amnesty, and only those who deny it are lying.
Yes we did. I just wonder if these nerds in immigration know what low opinions most of us have for them? I don't have a whole lot of respect for these federal goons.
I want a candidate who will protect American sovereignty, without which neither my vote nor the Constitution mean anything. Immigration, bogus treaty processes, and trade deals are a direct threat to that sovereignty. Even Cruz flunked two out of three votes in the Senate on those criteria (the Corker bill and TPA). Not a single candidate has shown him/herself as fully comprehending that threat. I liked Mike Pence, but that won't happen now. So I'm waiting to see. I don't trust Walker yet.
Why would ANYONE give a KNOWN criminal the ability go to the ‘back of the line’ and wipe the slate clean?
Do they need to make restitution to those whom identities they’ve stolen? Which of the multitude of SSN and bogus forms will be made whole? Do they pay back the difference in wages/property values they lowered or insurance they’ve raised for their illegal actions? How ‘bout the hospitals they’ve never paid back or the property taxes stolen for their/brood education?
Or, are only there some laws that can be broken by the ‘chosen’ group that won’t count...unlike if We the Citizen did the same?
See post 28.
Think about what you just said.
Under Cruz, the illegals get work permits and are turned into a permanent underclass. There is ZERO doubt in my mind that they are granted citizenship by some judge that determines after living here X number of years, paying taxes, etc, that you are a citizen and have a right to vote.
Under Walker, they have to apply for citizenship, get the background check, the testing, etc. If they committed crimes, they do not get citizenship.
Now, which is better?
Who said that? I didn't hear anybody say criminals get a pass.
Cruz would give the criminals work permits and turn them into a permanent underclass.
Walker will make them go through the naturalization process.....WHICH INCLUDES A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK.....before granting citizenship.
I agree that Cruz’s position is a sneak into citizenship.
But Walker’s is a guarantee.
Two bad choices—I still easily go with Cruz, who is at least for tightening up illegal immigration in other clear (as opposed to vague) ways.
So, every person who applies for naturalization is granted citizenship?
Or are you just making crap up?
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