Posted on 07/18/2015 4:24:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I will NEVER forget being a state delegate and being brow beaten to vote for McCain in the pRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.........I was accosted by a state representative, a Senator and a few other McCain sycophants......I informed all of them, that I was a naval officer and I knew all I needed to know about McCain LONG before his presidential run!
I have never forgiven those alleged “Friends” for the way they tried to WHIP me into voting for that Cretin!
Those guys were heros. They may knot have known (no one really did at the time) about the radiation and long term effects. Still, they knew a little, which was why they wanted to fly through the cloud. Knowing that and doing it anyway takes some real guts.
Smithsonian "Air & Space" magazine had a short story from one of the guys that flew F-84s up close to the detonations. A scary read. Like your brother, most all of those guys are dead from the radiation they absorbed.
the world thanks you for your honorable sevice in leadin and carin for our wounded soldiers
I know you shun attagirls about it but you did it and deserve praise
McCain didn’t do it, but his actions during and afterward still sucked
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081007_investigating_john_mccains_tragedy_at_sea
Once during the year it came out. 30 years ago. Is there some detail from the movie you're referring to?
tHE FELLA MUST THINK YOU NEED A BIGGER BOAT? (JUST A HUNCH)
Agree fully.
I have been very, very sad all day. My brother’s daughter posted pictures of her dad’s grave with the red, white and blue decorations on Facebook today. He died in May, 2006, my husband died in July, 2006, my bil 2 weeks later and then my mom died in January, 2007. She would have been 103 a few months later. All of these came 2 years after my daughter died. So, I have just been missing them but kinda glad they can not see what this country has become. My brother would be disgusted. Am going to have to get off this site. Makes me very sad.
McCain is a Traitor enough for his involvement with isis and al-qaeda affiliates in the ME. Frankly, I feel he should be put up before a firing squad for those videos/photographs alone.
Bud Day however, claims McCain did his duty in Vietnam, and his accounts seem okay by me.
As regards the 30+ propaganda audio/videos he allegedly made for the NVA, I’ve only ever seen and heard the one in this current documentary. If there are any others, I’d be very interested in hearing/seeing them as they must still be extant.
Thanks, JR for FR and all you do.
I hope McCain is in his last term as Senator.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!! And that goes for sll of his arsekissing friends too (Flake, Graham,,,etc,...etc....
DT was right again. This guy is on target and walker sucks and Jindal looks like ET!!
Several youtubes showing the real McCain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8&feature=youtu.be
Trump seems to be doing the heavy lifting...saying what our “politicians” are too pansy assed to say...and I admire Trump for having the balls to say what needs to be said!
I kid you not. McCain was a collaborator with the godless communists in Vietnam. He is hated by POWs who gutted it out. He doesn’t have a single friend that was a POW. He was called “song bird” in the communist papers. He blocked his debriefing report after he he was liberated by Nixon using senatorial powers. I tell you what— DEMAND that he release his debriefing report in the interest of truth and transparency. Let’s see if Trump was right or McAmnesty was right!! Release your interview notes McAmnesty— Let you personally prove that President Trump was wrong. Do it NOW!!
That would imply that McLame has integrity...and that is your first mistake...McLame wouldnt know the truth if it bit him in the ass!
Smith was born in Trenton, New Jersey,...served in the United States Navy Reserve from 1962 to 1965, and was on active duty from 1965 to 1967, including a year in Vietnam. He remained in the Navy Reserve until 1969...Roman Catholicism
Dornan was born in New York City, New York,...Roman Catholic
At age 19, Dornan volunteered to join the United States Air Force. During his time in the USAF, he survived two emergency parachute ejections and two "dead stick" forced landings (including one of an F-100). Dornan also served as a photographer during the Vietnam War and flew relief flights into Biafra. He was an active duty serviceman in USAF until 1958, reaching the rank of Captain.[3] He then served in the Air Force Reserve until 1975.[3]
Bob Dornan took an active role in the civil rights movement. He took part in the historic 1963 March on Washington led by Martin Luther King Jr. The following year he helped register African Americans to vote in Mississippi.[4][5][6]
Dornan was involved in the entertainment industry. He starred in the film The Starfighters, cast as an Air Force pilot whose father is a U.S. congressman. The Starfighters aired on Mystery Science Theater 3000.
In 1962, he portrayed Air Force Lieutenant Alden in the episode "Dennis at Boot Camp" of the CBS sitcom, Dennis the Menace, starring Jay North and Gale Gordon, with Roy Roberts in this segment as Captain Stone.[7]
Dornan had a frequent role as Captain Fowler on ABC's Twelve O'Clock High television series and smaller roles on ABC's Bewitched and NBC's I Dream of Jeannie. Dornan was an Emmy-award winning television talk show host on Tempo and The Robert K. Dornan Show broadcast from Los Angeles from 1967 to 1973.
John McCain was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (born 1912)...In 1951, the family settled in Northern Virginia,...Baptist congregant (brought up Episcopalian)[1]
Following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather, McCain entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis. There, he was a friend and informal leader for many of his classmates,[11] and sometimes stood up for targets of bullying.[5] He also became a lightweight boxer.[12] McCain did well in academic subjects that interested him, such as literature and history, but studied only enough to pass subjects he struggled with, such as mathematics.[5][13] He came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a low class rank (894 of 899), despite a high IQ.[11][14] McCain graduated in 1958.[11] Naval training, first marriage, and Vietnam assignment
John McCain's early military career began when he was commissioned an ensign and started two and a half years of training at Pensacola to become a naval aviator.[15] While there, he earned a reputation as a partying man.[7] He completed flight school in 1960, and became a naval pilot of ground-attack aircraft, assigned to A-1 Skyraider squadrons[16] aboard the aircraft carriers USS Intrepid and USS Enterprise[17] in the Caribbean and Mediterranean Seas.[18] McCain began as a sub-par flier[18] who was at times careless and reckless;[19] during the early to mid-1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries.[19] His aviation skills improved over time,[18] and he was seen as a good pilot, albeit one who tended to "push the envelope" in his flying.[19]
On July 3, 1965, McCain married Carol Shepp, a model originally from Philadelphia.[20] McCain adopted her two young children Douglas and Andrew.[17][21] He and Carol then had a daughter named Sidney.[22][23]
McCain requested a combat assignment,[24] and was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks.[25] His combat duty began when he was 30 years old, in mid-1967, when Forrestal was assigned to a bombing campaign, Operation Rolling Thunder, during the Vietnam War.[20][26] Stationed in the Gulf of Tonkin, McCain and his fellow pilots became frustrated by micromanagement from Washington, and he would later write that "In all candor, we thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots who didn't have the least notion of what it took to win the war."[26][27]
On July 29, 1967, McCain, by then a lieutenant commander, was near the epicenter of the USS Forrestal fire. He escaped from his burning jet and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded;[28] McCain was struck in the legs and chest by fragments.[29] The ensuing fire killed 134 sailors and took 24 hours to control.[30][31] With the Forrestal out of commission, McCain volunteered for assignment with the USS Oriskany, another aircraft carrier employed in Operation Rolling Thunder.[32] Once there, he would be awarded the Navy Commendation Medal and the Bronze Star for missions flown over North Vietnam.[33] Prisoner of war
John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[34][35] McCain fractured both arms and a leg ejecting from the aircraft,[36] and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Trúc Bạch Lake.[34] Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[34] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hỏa Lò Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[35]
Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, beating and interrogating him to get information; he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral.[37] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[38][39]
McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care.[34] By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[34] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[40] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[41] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[42]
In mid-1968, John S. McCain Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release[44] because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[45] and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially.[44] McCain turned down the offer; he would only accept repatriation if every man taken in before him was released as well. Such early release was prohibited by the POW's interpretation of the military Code of Conduct: To prevent the enemy from using prisoners for propaganda, officers were to agree to be released in the order in which they were captured.[34]
In August 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[46] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[34][46] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, stopped by guards.[34] Eventually, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[34] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he later wrote, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[47][48] Many American POWs were tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements;[49] virtually all of them eventually yielded something to their captors.[50] McCain subsequently received two to three beatings weekly because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[51]
McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[52] From late 1969 onward, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[53] while McCain continued actively to resist the camp authorities.[54] McCain and other prisoners cheered the U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, viewing it as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[48][55]
Altogether, McCain was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was released on March 14, 1973.[56] His wartime injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[57] Commanding officer, liaison to Senate, and second marriage White-haired man in thirties sitting in a chair, pack of cigarettes readily available McCain giving an interview to the press on April 24, 1973, after his return from Vietnam. Photo by US News and World Report.
McCain's return to the United States reunited him with his family. His wife Carol had suffered her own crippling ordeal due to an automobile accident in December 1969.[58] McCain became a celebrity of sorts, as a returned POW.[58]
McCain underwent treatment for his injuries, including months of grueling physical therapy,[59] and attended the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. during 1973–1974.[60] Having been rehabilitated, by late 1974, McCain had his flight status reinstated, and in 1976 he became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida.[58][61] He improved the unit's flight readiness and safety records,[62] and won the squadron its first-ever Meritorious Unit Commendation.[61] During this period in Florida, McCain had extramarital affairs, and the McCains' marriage began to falter, for which he later would accept blame.[63][64]
McCain served as the Navy's liaison to the U.S. Senate beginning in 1977.[65] In retrospect, he has said that this represented his "real entry into the world of politics and the beginning of my second career as a public servant."[58] His key behind-the-scenes role gained congressional financing for a new supercarrier against the wishes of the Carter administration.[59][66]...
McCain decided to leave the Navy. It was doubtful whether he would ever be promoted to the rank of full admiral, as he had poor annual physicals and had been given no major sea command.[68] His chances of being promoted to rear admiral were better, but McCain declined that prospect, as he had already made plans to run for Congress and said he could "do more good there."[69][70] McCain retired from the Navy on April 1, 1981,[71] as a captain.[33] He was designated as disabled and awarded a disability pension.[72] Upon leaving the military, he moved to Arizona. His 17 military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Navy Commendation Medal, for actions before, during, and after his time as a POW.[33]
Thank you, Jim. And coming from a Navy veteran it makes your words and your opinion more powerful.
Forget it. Somewhere, someone is laughing at your complete lack of popular culture knowledge from the 70’s.
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