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To: rdcbn

The problem is that the state of Hawaii, under both the Republican Administration of former Governor Linda Lingle and the Democrat administration of Governor Neal Abercrombie continually issued statements of validation for the abstract computer print out short form and the PDF digital reproduction of the long form.

Under Article IV, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the “Full faith and credit clause” whatever public record a state says is official and authentic will be accepted in every other state.

There have been eight verification statements by various officials of the state of Hawaii:
1) The first authenticity statement by Hawaii Department of Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino, MD. issued October 31, 2008:
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/08-93.pdf
2) Second authenticity statement by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, MD. issued July 27, 2009:
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/09-063.pdf
3) Televised interview with Dr. Fukino on Obama birth certificate authenticity. http://youtu.be/e9D4n6_Uifk
4) Verification of authenticity press release, state of Hawaii, issued April 27, 2011:
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
5) Certified Letter of Verification from Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics prepared for Arizona Secretary of State: http://archive.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf
6) Certified Letter of Verification from Registrar Alvin T. Onaka prepared for Kansas Secretary of State:
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/106576604
7) Certified Letter of Verification prepared at the request of the defense from Registrar Alvin T. Onaka for the Mississippi eligibility challenge, U.S. District Court Judge Henry T. Wingate, Southern District of Mississippi:
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/96289285
(See exhibits on last two pages of the Motion To Supplement Counsel.
8) Radio interview transcript, Governor Linda Lingle of Hawaii naming Kapi’olani Hospital as the Barack Obama birthplace:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html


35 posted on 07/19/2015 5:05:01 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Here’s what finally succeeded in convincing me Little Barry was born in HI. It was when famed researcher and big time Obama fan David Maraniss went to HI, beat every bush and left no stone unturned, and actually found people who remembered a pregnant Stanley Ann in HI during those crucial nine months. Of course one would expect no less; if she’d been there all that time, someone would remember her. But it took Maraniss with his formidable research skills to actually locate these people. He succeeded where others had failed.

If even Maraniss, with his exceptional talents, had failed to locate even one person who remembered SAD being in HI during her pregnancy, I’d have concluded she wasn’t there. But since he located eye witnesses, who can doubt she was really there?

Lol.


36 posted on 07/19/2015 5:51:09 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus
I am aware that the State of Hawaii has certified the documents.

This certification was done by Loretta Fuddy so she would be the one who is responsible for any inaccuracies in the certification and she is the one who would have to take the fall for any false statements regarding the certification.

Unfortunately, Ms Fuddy died in a small plane crash. Due to the occurrence of that freak accident, she is unavailable to comment

And of course, if there is ever any serious scrutiny of the documents and they are found to fabrications, she will be the one blamed for any fabrications and be the one held accountable. Every one else involved in the case will proclaim that they are merely unwitting victims of whatever Fuddy

Since the documents are legally described only as abstracted copies, anyone else implicated in the fabrication of the documents can claim that they were simply adding or subtracting information to produce what is clearly described as an abstracted copy of a document, which is precisely the legal definition of an abstracted document, and normally a legal thing to do.

Is that enough to circumvent any charges of forgery or fraud if it ever goes to court?

Who knows. Ploys like this worked to the Clintons and Hillary is the odds on favorite to be the next President. SO far it has also worked for the Obama's on other issues.

However, if anyone wanted to use smart Harvard lawyers to engineer wiggle room in an attempt to mitigate and shield people putting forth false documents from criminal conviction, this is one of the methods.

Kind of like what the meaning of is, is.

FWIW, Governor Neal Abercrombie has publicly stated that Obama’s birth certificate can not be found in the Hawaii birth records so it will be very difficult to verify that the document has been in any way altered.

In order to establish the act of any illegal alteration of documents, one must have the original to prove the document has been altered, but that original document is not available for comparison.

This will make any prosecution problematic because the defense attorney will blame the State of Hawaii for it's careless storage of documents. The State of Hawaii will point the finger at Loretta Fuddy, and blame her for being sloppy with documents and losing them.

No one else will ever be held accountable for the inexplicable inability to locate the originals in the digital or microfilmed archives

The lawyers will make the case that the inability to produce the original document prevents his client from being able to defend themselves and receive a fair trial.

The attorney will then ask the judge to dismiss the charges for lack of evidence and the sympathetic judge will do so while expressing his frustration and extreme reluctance but claiming he ultimately had no choice.

Everyone who is furious about the misleading of the American people and the fact that no one will ever be exposed or held accountable will be denounced as crazy birthers and told to move on, because the issue has finally been settled once and for all.

Republicans in Congress will throw up their hands and say their hands are tied and there is nothing they can do.

37 posted on 07/19/2015 6:20:56 PM PDT by rdcbn (imee)
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To: Nero Germanicus
Do you have a program that simply scans Free Republic for issues relating to Obama's legitimacy? Does it use Keywords?

When it registers a hit, do you immediately spring into action or do you wait until the message level has reached a specific number of bytes?

Cause I don't believe you spend every minute of every day waiting till someone posts something questioning Obama's legitimacy so that you can leap to his defense, Mr. Die Hard Conservative Republican from the Southern California Urban center of San Diego where there is Heap big um Tribe of Conservative Republicans.


124 posted on 07/23/2015 11:53:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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