Posted on 07/18/2015 6:25:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“No matter who it was it is still a socialist rant. We must decide socialism or not. There can be no middle ground.”
Sorry, I should have expanded, I believe it was made by candidate Ronald Reagan. How did that work out?
As astute as The Donald may be about many other aspects of the entrepreneurial agenda, his understanding of “health care” is not among them.
Health care is, first and most importantly, the duty and responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL, and “universal” government-dictated and applied methods of health services delivery cannot possibly provide this individual aspect.
First, it is not economically feasible, because the demand for ANYTHING, if it is perceived to be “free” or at relatively little cost, will explode at exponential rates, making the delivery of those goods or services necessarily subject to rationing. And when the need for rationing cannot be fully understood and shared by all, it soon breaks down into anarchy, the “gimmedats” jumping to the head of the crowd, and forcing those truly and genuinely in need to the back of the line, which, once they work their way up to the head, find there is nothing to be distributed. This is worse than no care at all, as there was the expectation of delivery, which never came.
Health care is an expensive, and as it turns out, a somewhat rare commodity, making it, in turn, a very valuable commodity. Rationing its distribution by price is then the method of allocation, those that can pay will choose the care they deem necessary to their personal well being, and others less able to pay, make an economic decision. And sometimes the decision is NOT to seek “preferred” health services, but to turn to alternative and less expensive treatments, or dispense with any treatment at all. After all, most things get better in the morning, do they not?
Education of the individual on the care and upkeep of their own personal circle (themselves and their immediate family) is an abiding need in every school curriculum in the whole WORLD, not just in any particular locality. The instruction manuals are out there, they only have to be made available to the individual user, with guidance on how to read and apply the information. These instructions go back to the very first books in the Old Testament, and have been reiterated and updated over the centuries.
For The Donald, “universal” health care, may seem to be only a service that could be hired, but for the most of us, it is a matter of engaging in providing a very large part of our own efforts to secure a state of good health.
The question is how to do it. He said using the market, though I see needing Medical for people with prior conditions or broke folks.
If it were me I would charge prior condition folks a percentage of the income to get on and we should let people buy what they want.
Do lawyer and tort reform and costs will go down.
If you recall, big insurance companies weren’t out fighting against obamacare. They’ve been paid off by eliminating competition. You never heard the big ones advocating competition across state lines. They didn’t want that.
Obama and his thugs got to the top level management of the big insurance companies. They bought them off.
After the most recent supreme court ruling in favor of obamacare, the key insurance stocks made major gains. They won. We lost.
I don’t see obamacare being thrown out. The republicans aren’t going to do it. They don’t want to go there. It’s all cheap talk. I believe the best we can hope for is to elect someone that would amend it to death.
But, but, but...
The Trump people will go nuts and say you are a Liberal if you report this...
I love being right about other candidates...
We are probably stuck with some form of it and I'd like to hear more about his take on making it workable - has to be head and shoulders above anything the corrupt "representatives" in D.C. could envision/implement.
Except that he is for SINGLE payer...
I agree. If anybody can figure out how to make healthcare affordable its Trump. He is going to go at it a lot better than these politicians.
Now you will see that they will try to justify Trump's "Universal Healthcare."
I would like to say this again. Donald Trump is not a Conservative. He doesn't even know what being a Conservative means. Listen to him saying it himself at the 53:00 mark. He was talking about repealing and replacing Obamacare and he added this:
Full Speech: Donald Trump Brings Down The House In Phoenix, AZ (7-11-15)
“I know this doesn't sound very Conservative. We gotta take care of everybody, not just the people up here. We gotta take care of everybody. Okay! Get used to it, Conservatives. I love you, Conservatives. Get used to it. Let's take care of everybody, please. And by the way Obamacare doesn't!”
And you forget number 3:
1) He is fearlessness in giving the proverbial finger to the GOPe crowd.
My plan would be to tell the public the truth. There ain't no free lunch, and universal health care will either (a) cut quality off at the kneecaps, or (b) cost, and cost big.
I sure won't promise unicorns and pots of gold that I can't deliver.
All of combover boy's "plans" so far seem to consist of - "Hey. I'm a real smart guy. And I'm tough too. That's why I'm worth billions. So I'm just gonna fix it, OK? That's all ya need to know."
There is no talking to the “I paid in, where’s my lock box” SS and Medicare crowd. Apparently there’s a standard procedure for that first Medicare office visit that involved deadening the math circuits of the brain.
Trump is refreshing because is is exactly the opposite of the political class, the establishment power-brokers and MSM enablers. . .he is fighting back and injecting passion and energy.
Because we were much better off before medical insurance.
Now, with it, the cost to the public has skyrocketed, hospitals are going out of business, and doctors are making less money.
In other words, the only one’s prospering are the insurance companies and at the expense of the rest of us.
And the lawyers are prospering by the exhorbitant malpractice awards being given by sympathetic juries. A long time ago, malpractice meant the doctor had intentionally done something egregious or was incomptent. Now, if ANYTHING AT ALL GOES WRONG IN ANY MEDICAL PROCEDURE, the vulture lawyers are at the ready to bleed the doctors dry. Tort reform would throw out the frivilous lawsuits and the cost of malpractice insurance would have to be reduced to the doctors.
Yup!
The problem is the low deductible/HMO-type expectation that insurance pays for everything. We’ve had some form of health insurance for 165 years.
Without it, there would have been limited ability to fund and develop many life saving and extending healthcare innovations.
That doesn’t account for why hospitals are going out of business.
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