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Joule says “will go commercial in 2017″: solar fuels on the way
biofuelsdigest.com ^ | Jim Lane | March 23, 2015

Posted on 07/17/2015 6:38:31 AM PDT by ckilmer

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1 posted on 07/17/2015 6:38:31 AM PDT by ckilmer
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A second biofuel company that promises low cost biofuel is Algenol: Here’s their blurb.

Algenol’s patented technology enables the production of the four most important fuels (ethanol, gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel) for around $1.30 per gallon each using proprietary algae, sunlight, carbon dioxide and saltwater at production levels of 8,000 total gallons of liquid fuel per acre per year. Algenol’s technology produces high yields and relies on Algenol’s patented photobioreactors and proprietary downstream separation techniques for low-cost fuel production. These novel, low-cost techniques have the added benefit of consuming carbon dioxide from industrial sources, not using farmland or food crops and being able to provide freshwater. http://www.algenol.com/


2 posted on 07/17/2015 6:43:37 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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More federal subsidy rent seekers at work. Their production claims amount to under 1/2 ounce of fuel per square foot PER WEEK!


3 posted on 07/17/2015 7:06:03 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: familyop

Pingaling


4 posted on 07/17/2015 7:07:44 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools)
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To: ckilmer

What will this algae do if it gets into your local pond?


5 posted on 07/17/2015 7:07:56 AM PDT by toast
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To: SunkenCiv; thackney

Here’s two biofuel companies that say they’ll be producing gasoline for 1.10-1.30@gallon in a couple years.

The article on New Mexico based Joule advices caution on the claim while showing there’s plenty of reason to believe them.

Florida based algenol is considered to be the leader in biofuels.


6 posted on 07/17/2015 7:08:22 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: FirstFlaBn

Joule is not getting any money from the feds. They promise to produce various biofuels for $1.10@ gallon without subsidies.

That’s not too shabbby.


7 posted on 07/17/2015 7:10:01 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: toast

What will this algae do if it gets into your local pond?
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Joule is using enclosed spaces located out in the deserts of New Mexico. here’s a utube of their work from four years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKTMgu5XmnY


8 posted on 07/17/2015 7:12:46 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer

Especially if, as they say, it’s a “drop in” fuel. No further refining needed.


9 posted on 07/17/2015 7:14:25 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ckilmer

No subsidy? How can they propose to get more energy per sq ft than the energy that the sun provides? Perpetual motion machine on steroids!


10 posted on 07/17/2015 7:17:33 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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ExxonMobil dropped R & D on Algae Fuels like a hot rock. If they didn’t think it was economically feasible, I’d doubt anyone else should.


11 posted on 07/17/2015 7:17:50 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: ckilmer; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

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12 posted on 07/17/2015 7:24:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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I’ll believe it when I see it. Fifty times more fuel per acre than current production? Don’t ask me to invest in this. I would more likely be struck and killed by a meteor before I could collect.


13 posted on 07/17/2015 7:28:17 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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Joule certainly is getting benefit from Federal and State Dollars. They do more than just the Algae.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2012/12/boon_or_boondoggle_mounting_co.html

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Joule Solar Energy wants homeowners to know that 2015 tax credits are available for solar power system installations. Joule is the leading solar power expert in Louisiana.

While the amount of solar subsidies available varies by state, a combination of federal and state tax credits for homes in Louisiana covers up to 80 percent of the cost, according to Joule’s website. Ultimately, these incentives make solar power less expensive than power from the utility company.

Servicing the Lafayette and surrounding areas of Louisiana, Joule estimates a $25,000 solar panel system can be offset so that the homeowner is left with a final cost around $5,000.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lafayette-solar-power-expert-joule-175200458.html

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Are you sure you can support the claim they get no money from the feds?

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/laws/BIOD/US


14 posted on 07/17/2015 7:51:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: wastoute
How can they propose to get more energy per sq ft than the energy that the sun provides? Perpetual motion machine on steroids!

From the article:

The company has previously indicated that it could produce up to 15,000 gallons of diesel fuels, per acre per year, and as much as 25,000 gallons per acre per year of ethanol 

That's an average of 15.5 watts per square meter 24 hours per day. Let's double it to handle days vs nights and you get 31 W/m^2 for the daylight hours compared to about 1000 W/m^2 total solar power.

20.9 megajoules/liter* 25000 gallons/(year*acre) in watts/meter^2

Where 20.9 MJ/l is the energy density of ethanol.

15 posted on 07/17/2015 8:25:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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To: ckilmer

“exotic yields from an exotic organism that uses CO2, water and nutrients”

Ruh Roh. Wonder what those “nutrients” are gonna cost per gallon of fuel produced and how much engergy inputs to make/harvest those “nutrients”.


16 posted on 07/17/2015 8:33:00 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: KarlInOhio
That's an average of 15.5 watts per square meter 24 hours per day.

Which equals 0.37 kWH per square meter per day.

If your numbers are correct, that is just a small percentage of the annual average solar energy reaching the ground.


17 posted on 07/17/2015 8:37:58 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: FirstFlaBn

>>More federal subsidy rent seekers at work. Their production claims amount to under 1/2 ounce of fuel per square foot PER WEEK!<<

You say that like it’s not much. That’s a whole lot of fuel per acre per year however, as the article states.

I’m not buying the hype until they actually have a plant producing, but if their numbers are right, they not only won’t need subsidies, but they’ll put corn-based ethanol out of business.


18 posted on 07/17/2015 8:48:18 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: KarlInOhio

Thank you. That is what I wanted to see.


19 posted on 07/17/2015 9:36:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Bookmark


20 posted on 07/17/2015 9:38:53 AM PDT by aquila48
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