Posted on 07/16/2015 5:03:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
In June 2009, Richard and Shelly Hewson paid the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, an educational venture owned by businessman and nowpresidential candidate Donald Trump, $21,490 for classes that promised to teach them how to flip homes for profit. They ponied up the high price because we had faith in Donald Trump, Richard wrote in a January 2015 affidavit. We thought that if this was his program, we would be learning to do real estate deals from his people who knew his techniques.
What did the New Jersey couple get for shelling out more than $20,000 to a business bearing the famous Trump name? An instructor took them on a field trip to see dilapidated homes in rough Philadelphia neighborhoods, never bothering to explain how to reliably find properties to sell for a profit.
We realized that Trump was not teaching us how to find these needles in a haystack, Richard Hewsons affidavit says. We concluded that we had paid over $20,000 for nothing, based on our belief in Donald Trump and the promises made at the [organizations] free seminar and three-day workshop.
We never tried to get our money back because at that point we thought the whole thing was a scam and that we would not be able to fight Donald Trump, Hewson wrote.
Now Trump is fighting more than a dozen other candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, making his pitch on his business record and the respect its garnered him from millions of voters. But will his image as a peerless, productive entrepreneur suffer because of allegations that one of his businesses one that promised to help ordinary Americans achieve success like his amounted to a scam?
A class-action lawsuit in California and an ongoing civil suit brought by New York allege that Trump University defrauded up to 5,000 students.
The Hewsons are not alone: A class-action lawsuit in California and an ongoing civil suit brought by New York State allege that the now-defunct Trump University, later known as the Trump Entrepreneur Institute, defrauded up to 5,000 students, who paid as much as $35,000 to learn Trumps real-estate investment strategies and techniques.
The venture was, as Trump enterprises go, not especially large the New York complaint alleges Trump University earned about $40 million in revenue between 2005 and 2011. Its just one of many businesses whose main selling point is Trumps brand, a successful synthesis of prestige and up-by-your-bootstraps American entrepreneurship, quite at odds with the picture that recipients of a Trump education paint.
Last October, a New York trial court ruled that Trump University and Donald Trump personally were liable for restitution for all students who had taken the course since May 2010, because it was operating illegally without a state license, according to the attorney generals office.
Trump representatives claim theres no merit to these allegations whatsoever. Alan Garten, executive vice president and general counsel for the Trump Organization, says former students brought suit completely [out of] a financial motivation.
The courses, he says, were done in a first-class manner, and the materials were high-quality and first-rate.
According to the lawsuits, Trump University aggressively marketed a 90-minute free seminar that would reveal Trumps real-estate investing secrets. My hand-picked instructors will share my techniques, which took my entire career to develop, said one mass mailer bearing Trumps signature and offering two free VIP tickets to the event.
At the seminar, sales representatives were waiting, reportedly tasked with persuading attendees to pay an additional $1,495 for a three-day conference (which the Hewsons signed up for) that would provide the last real-estate education you will ever need for the rest of your life. According to New York States complaint, Trump University speakers repeatedly insinuated that Donald Trump would appear at the three-day seminar, claiming that he is going to be in town or often drops by and might show up or had just left.
But instead of getting a personal lesson from Trump, both cases claim, those who signed up got to take a picture with a cardboard cutout of him and then, the faculty allegedly subjected them to another sales pitch, aimed at persuading attendees to sign up for a $34,995 Gold Elite Program, which they said would include special training, mentorship, and access to alternative financing sources for real-estate deals.
Using high-pressure techniques, the complainants allege, salesmen tried to pressure attendees into charging the $34,995 to their credit cards.
The complainants allege salesmen tried to pressure attendees into charging the $34,995 to their credit cards. Trump University even provided handouts with scripted talking points for students to use in their phone calls with credit-card companies, explicitly encouraging people to falsify their current income, add[ing] projected income from our future real estate venture[s], and to deceive credit card companies by declaring income streams from corporate entities that had not been created, with the script telling students: If they ask you to prove income, inform them that it will be too much trouble to put all the paperwork together, New York States complaint says.
Garten says: There was no high-pressure sales techniques thats crazy. . . . Were there efforts to sell the course? Yes. . . . We think it provides people with real benefits. [But] no one was compelled or coerced to do that. Its laughable. People can make their own decision.
New York State alleges that some students wiped out their savings or went heavily into debt to cover the cost of the courses, which seem to have rarely delivered on the lofty promises.
The New York suit, led by Democratic attorney general Eric Schneiderman, says many of the so-called faculty came to Trump University from jobs having little to do with real estate investments, and some came to Trump University shortly after their real-estate investing caused them to go into bankruptcy. (Garten says the course materials were prepared by leaders in the field, including Ivy League professors.)
Trumps camp points to surveys conducted by attendees that reportedly show a 98 percent approval rating, but New York State alleged that some students felt pressured by their teachers to provide high rankings or were asked to rate the course before they had even completed it.
National Review did find some former students who said they were satisfied with their Trump University experience.
It gave me the guidelines and knowledge to enter real-estate investment, and it was helpful for me, says Jorge Carlos Guillen, a realtor in Virginia and Maryland. For me, it was not a scam. I paid $10,000 for it, and I got that money back pretty quickly.
Mark Gordon, owner of MG Real Estate Solutions and Mark Gordon Properties Inc., says he paid for the whole $34,995 class and was satisfied: Helpful would be an understatement.
You pay your money and take your chances, and youd better go into these kinds of things with your eyes wide open, Gordon says. I dont think [Trump is] a scam artist, and I dont have a beef with this. Some people are very unhappy, and I get that: They spent a lot of money. [But] there was never any implied guarantee that you take their training and youre going to make millions. I never got that.
New York State has alleged that Trumps for-profit educational company operated there between 2005 and 2011 despite repeated warnings from the states education department that its illegal to run an unchartered, unlicensed university. The state court has not yet determined how much restitution Trump University will have to pay. The trial court authorized Trumps legal team to depose each of the estimated 5,000 consumers potentially eligible for money.
The Trump Organization maintains that it was upfront about what the school was. At no time did we ever represent that it was a certified institution, Garten says. Its not like we were operating in the dark. We were open and notorious. We advertised it quite extensively. People knew exactly what we were doing, including the [state] department of education, and they were fine with it.
In October, New York State supreme-court justice Cynthia S. Kern decided that that Trump had violated state education law, writing, It is undisputed that Mr. Trump never complied with licensing requirements. Because of the statute of limitations, the state could not seek restitution throughout the entire time Trump operated without a license, just from 2010 onward.
The ongoing lawsuits against Trump University may prove uncomfortable for Donald Trump as he embarks on a presidential campaign. Many of his businesses, like Trump University, derive their success from his brand, and yet other Trump business practices such as his unsuccessful casinos in New Jerseys Atlantic City and his firms alleged hiring of illegal immigrants on construction projects have come under scrutiny, too. A number of Trump ventures have gone bankrupt in spectacular fashion, and even his net worth has been a matter of controversy: In a recent press release, Trump claimed his worth to be $10 billion, but Forbes magazine has pegged it at just $4 billion.
The press release was prompted by Trumps filing financial-disclosure forms with the Federal Election Commission, which is required for participation for the first Republican presidential debate, on August 6. Theres more news forthcoming, though, thanks to the Trump U lawsuits: A California federal judge ruled earlier this month that Trump has to testify on August 10 about both his net worth and his earnings from the real-estate classes.
Jillian Kay Melchior writes for National Review as a Thomas L. Rhodes Fellow for the Franklin Center. She is also a senior fellow at the Independent Womens Forum.
Out come Jeb Bush’s slimy team of assassins.
The end.
The Donald may have a huge ego, but he’s not that venal. Unlike the Clintons, who gladly sell influence speech by speech, he’s a big deal guy. In 2009, Trump certainly didn’t need to grub for bucks one student at a time.
“National Review” runs an attempted hit piece on the Donald
These real estate speculation courses are ubiquitous, I have attended the pitch, nothing more thn an intro to capitalism in a very basic technique available to the enterprising and the committed
Nothing illegal or immoral, no victims here
Some people lose their money because they can’t follow the techniques but others I am sure can do ok or better - but it is a matter of free choice
There are no guarantees from Harvard either if you spend $250K on an education
Beware “the narrative”. Who is writing this, why, and what vindicating info is missing?
I am pretty convinced they are working for the DNC.
For the record...,
Jeb Bush in a country of over 330 million people.....
ONLY HAS 12,334 DONORS THAT GAVE JEB CASH...
Compare that to Sanders 284,000 donors and Clinton 250,000...
Jeb Bush is not liked by a super majority of Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party and Constitutions.
Their is NO WAY he can win the election if 90% plus of his own party can't stand him.
Yet the Establishment at the National Review keeps attacking Trump, HELPING THE DNC, who could easily beat Hillary.
FNR!
Other FR treads over the past few years on Trump University.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=university%20trump
He didn’t run it. He just sold his name for it.
There are many scams like this. Robert Kiyosaki, author of Rich Dad was also involve in similar scam. I don’t know how involve they are in it, but their names are used to rip many people off. Personally I can’t believe people could be so stupid as to fall for it. Making money is NEVER easy unless it via unethical means
This too
Does H-> run a scam sham charity? Do The Jebster, Boner and Ditch run a scam political organization at odds with America?
Scam university?
You mean like 99% of all of the others in the nation?
Not unless Jeb Bush’s slimy team was on Trump’s trail in October of 2014 and had a NY State Supreme Court justice on the payroll, which in either case would be very impressive. Mind you, anyone who spent tens of thousands of dollars on a supposed course teaching how to flip distressed properties was a fool. But that does not excuse the scam artists who fooled them.
Talk to any recent graduate of with a teaching degree and 80k in student loans and ask how their job search is going. Or not going.
I think this is stupid. People were pressured? That’s the crux? People didn’t do their homework and were dumb enough to part with their money. Trump operated a school without a license? BFD. He didn’t claim to be licensed, is what it sounds like.
If this is the worst there is, it’s nothing.
Flipping houses is not difficult to do if you read a few books and do what they say to do. You can generally make about 15% if you run it like the business that it is.
A good contractor is one of the big keys to success and the understanding it may take a year to acquire the first property.
You also may:
Break even
Lose your butt.
It’s a business.
There have been real estate courses and seminars all over the US for decades. The attendees actually have to do some work once the courses end. Some succeed and some don’t.
What a shock.
If they want to start airing dirty laundry then they should consider that Trump has loads of their very soiled linen and the means to place it all before the public.
Just imagine the fun to be had, and all the popcorn to be consumed.
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