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Whip count: Where the Senate stands on the Iran deal (Menendez is only Dem leaning no so far)
The Washington Post ^
| July 14 at 4:55 PM
| Amber Phillips
Posted on 07/14/2015 5:26:54 PM PDT by Dave346
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posted on
07/14/2015 5:26:55 PM PDT
by
Dave346
To: Dave346
Can someone please explain why the Congress has to pass anything at all? By what authority can the president release assets that have been frozen since 1979? Wouldn’t Congress have to pass a bill to enable such a move?
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posted on
07/14/2015 5:30:44 PM PDT
by
montag813
(Pray for Israel)
To: Dave346
There is No ,”NO Vote” Congress remove the No Vote when they passed that Bill a while back
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posted on
07/14/2015 5:31:53 PM PDT
by
molson209
(Blank)
To: Dave346
Can’t someone file a lawsuit to declare the “treaty” and the Senate procedure unlawful, as violating the Treaty Power?
To: montag813
Boehner and McConnell agreed to a bill that essentially inverts the normal order. Instead of a two-thirds majority to ratify, they must pass a bill to not-ratify. Said bill is then easily overturned with a veto. Voila! A defacto ratification that only a 2/3rds majority of both houses can overturn by overturning the veto. Stupid on steroids. That's the bone headed "leadership" of the GOP.
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posted on
07/14/2015 5:35:35 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Dave346
America is FINISHED. Israel too. Estrogen has seeped into the brains of men who've now become GUTLESS, IDEALISTIC and DELUSIONAL. We deserve what we get and Iran/China/Russia will ensure that we DO get it but it'll be too late.
The China/Russia/Iran alliance got a huge victory today. We are helpless midgets compared to these three.
To: kaehurowing
Cant someone file a lawsuit to declare the treaty and the Senate procedure unlawful, as violating the Treaty Power? The Corker Bill took care of all that. Now the Pubs can safely be against the treaty since there's no way it will be rejected enough without Democrat votes to override Obama. They were for it before they were against it. Totally disgusting.
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posted on
07/14/2015 5:39:10 PM PDT
by
Menehune56
("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
To: Dave346
I don’t know who the Jewish democrat congressman is who was on FOX tonight but he was brutal. He said Obama has a record of nothing but foreign policy failures and this is the worst of them all.
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:12:12 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
To: Dave346
Since when is a treaty subject to a 1/3 or less approval?
How is this arrangement in any way constitutional?
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:12:42 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
To: Menehune56
The Corker Bill took care of all that. By what authority?
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:13:43 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
To: P-Marlowe
The problem is that this isn’t in any way America anymore.
To: Fightin Whitey
It might be time to march on Washington with pitchforks, torches, tar and feather. If that doesn’t work, then.....
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:16:55 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God!)
To: Menehune56
I cannot fathom an explanation why these idiots would do that. I seriously hate the GOP more than the Democrats and I believe today’s democrats are satan on earth.
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:23:58 PM PDT
by
ilgipper
To: Dave346
Why did Corker/McConnell/Cornyn agree to change this treaty to a 1/3rd approval vote from the constitutional 2/3 absolute ratification requirement in MAY of this year? UCMTU!! Are they stupid or just globalist traitors to the constitution?
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:39:23 PM PDT
by
WENDLE
To: Menehune56
The Corker bill *might* address the lifting of sanctions, but it cannot supercede the ratification of treaties. Obama and McConnell are trying to avoid calling this a treaty, but the problem is that it quacks like a treaty and Obama is comparing it to past treaties.
A Senator could sue on the ground that it harms his power to advise and consent, and states could sue on the grounds that it violates their representation in the Senate to advise and consent.
There is a reason why advice and consent is a Senate-only power - because it required the permission of the states. But we now have a rogue Senate that no longer represents states' interests. The Senate now represents partisan ideological global interests.
-PJ
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:54:17 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
To: montag813
By the authority of a law the Republicans passed in April stating that Obama gets his deal unless his veto can be overridden.
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posted on
07/14/2015 6:55:12 PM PDT
by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Carry_Okie
The Uniparty’s authority given them by the Lesser of Two Evils voters. They nullified the senate treaty power because they can and we'll keep voting for them. Cruz voted for it too.
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posted on
07/14/2015 7:05:33 PM PDT
by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: ilgipper
Only one senator voted against it. Tom Cotton.
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posted on
07/14/2015 7:06:37 PM PDT
by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: WENDLE
Don’t stop with those guys. You forgot Lee, Sessions, Paul, Rubio and..... Cruz.
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posted on
07/14/2015 7:08:16 PM PDT
by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Dave346
as far as I can tell,
the sanctions are ‘executive orders’,
that Obama could change with the stroke of a pen.
or not.
this is all I can find.
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/iran.txt
if you have something,
please post it
please be as specific as you can be.
the reason Congress can’t stop the lifting of sanctions,
is that the sanctions did not
come from Congress.
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posted on
07/14/2015 7:33:10 PM PDT
by
RockyTx
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