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To: RnMomof7

No, it doesn’t. Why do you try to rewrite St. Augustine? What gives you permission to do that?


189 posted on 07/14/2015 2:18:39 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein; CynicalBear
No, it doesn’t. Why do you try to rewrite St. Augustine? What gives you permission to do that?

No just telling you what Trent says

" "IF ONE SHALL SAY, THAT IN MINISTERS, WHILST THEY COMPLETE AND CONFER THE SACRAMENTS, THERE IS NOT REQUIRED THE INTENTION, AT LEAST OF DOING WHAT THE CHURCH DOES, LET HIM BE ACCURSED."*

* Si quis dixerit, in ministris, dum sacramenta conficiunt et conferunt, no requiri intentionem saltem faciendi quod facit ecclesia; anathema sit.— Can. xi. sess. vii., Canones et Decreta Conc. Trid., p. 43., Lipsiae, 1863. [Council of Trent, 7th Session, March 3rd, 1547,

So one can never be sure thaty have received a VALID sacrament .... Ohhh what a tangled web we weave .....

199 posted on 07/14/2015 2:27:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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