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To: jeffersondem

“The states are the parents.”

In your post 80 you wrote that the States create new States. Wouldn’t that make the newer States the offspring of the older States too?

Anyhow, I don’t see that it matters. The words in the DOI, which you quoted in post 66, are “When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them...”

And I wrote in post 76 “To expand on that a little, it could be said there is a God given right to secede (to dissolve the political bands) when it’s necessary and when the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle assumption of separate and equal station among the powers of the earth.”

Neither quote notes an offspring relationship as a limiting factor. And if it were a limiting factor, would that not have been a problem for the signers of the DOI due to colonies being offspring of England based on Grants, Charters and so forth?


90 posted on 07/15/2015 11:52:51 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the and breadth of "ignorance. individual be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

“Neither quote notes an offspring relationship as a limiting factor. And if it were a limiting factor, would that not have been a problem for the signers of the DOI due to colonies being offspring of England based on Grants, Charters and so forth?”

I don’t know what you are talking about half the time.

The major problems the signers of the DOI had were avoiding being hanged by the King, winning the Revolution, and creating a revolutionary form of government with checks and balances in a Republic and personal liberty. They did their job.

For some reason, we are not doing ours. We have lost a lot of what they gave us. It really looks like we’ll lose the rest.

But if you don’t think the colonies, then the states, were the basic building blocks of our nation I’ll try to follow your thinking.


93 posted on 07/15/2015 2:23:34 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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