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Trump Fans, It’s Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg's Weekly News Letter

Posted on 07/11/2015 1:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: austinaero
Carson had been complimentary of Trump too. I have met Cruz, gave a great speech. Not sure he can ignite ordinary voters the way Trump can. We are way past policy positions and issue candidates. Like it or not, Bill Clinton and Zero have dragged us into the world of celebrity candidates. Does Walker come anywhere close to doing that?

But the other thing is, the media attacks will be unbelievable, and I don't know, as tough as Cruz is, if he has the ego (as Trump does) to just flick these away.

161 posted on 07/11/2015 5:46:26 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Which makes Donald Trump an opportunist, not a hero.”

One can only be an “opportunist” if one is given an “opportunity” - take away the opportunity, and NOTHING IS LEFT for Trump.

The REAL QUESTION is whether the Republicans are able to step up to that and address Open Borders...so far there is NO SIGN that they will, so Trump will continue to have a clear field.

Don’t blame us...


162 posted on 07/11/2015 5:47:19 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: ScottinVA

“1. The Trump who says it’s time to restore America and the human spirit.. or the Trump who attempted to eject a widow from her family’s boarding house because he coveted that space for limo parking?”

Personally I’m sick of OVERWEIGHT WHEELIES taking all of the good parking spaces everywhere I shop, so I’m with Trump on that.

2. The Trump who says to close the border and stop the taking by illegals of American jobs... or the Trump whose corporation has illegals doing construction work for it?

In most of the country now, the ONLY PEOPLE doing construction work are Illegals (other than the actors on This Old House) - Trump has no choice. Get rid of them and there will be a HUGE DEMAND for American jobs.

“3. The Trump who makes the claim to be a conservative, or the Trump who has repeatedly praised “universal health care?””

We get “Universal Health Care” if Jeb is nominated too...since he’ll lose to Hillary or Sanders. Same for most other Republicans running. I’d prefer to work with Trump to try to clean up this nightmare system.


163 posted on 07/11/2015 5:50:56 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Gaffer

“It’s pointless to keep up this ‘concern’ thing about Republicans because in the final analysis, the only real ‘concern’ meme Democrats will accept is the one that says “Republicans don’t deserve to exist”. That’s their way, that’s their goal”

You are TOTALLY RIGHT about that. But I doubt most people here can comprehend it.


164 posted on 07/11/2015 5:52:58 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: livius

“If he was serious about politics and making a change, he should have run for mayor of New York - he started to, in fact, but washed out early on.”

So he washes out as NY mayor but is now leading the pack for the NATIONAL Republican nomination.

Care to tell us why - or do you need me to answer it for you?


165 posted on 07/11/2015 5:54:16 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jonah shows himself as the classical useful idiot as defined by Lenin.

Here’s Trump blowing up the propaganda press, the rat party and the treasonous RINOs, and the idiot Jonah wants to talk about Trump’s record. That’s exactly what the Stalinist press and RINOs want is for the spotlight to be taken off their treason and perfidy. And who comes along to help the MSM? None other than the useful idiot Jonah.

There will be plenty of time later, as the primary season unfolds, to analyze Trump’s positions. In the meantime, every conservative should be celebrating the fact that Trump is exposing RINO traitors and attacking the filthy, America-hating propaganda press with great effect.

Jonah and his supporters need to get a grip on reality and stop playing the role of useful idiots.


166 posted on 07/11/2015 5:56:15 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Gaffer

“Like the running Limbaugh penchant to brag about his own awesomeness.”

EXACTLY...it is hysterical and it’s great to watch the liberals go BONKERS over it. They just can’t deal with guys that don’t act like girly-men.


167 posted on 07/11/2015 5:56:58 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: stilloftyhenight
He said he will not run third party and with all the support he is getting, he won’t have to.

July 9, 2015:............"In a wide-ranging, 30-minute interview with The Washington Post, the billionaire real estate mogul and reality-television star also said he has serious concerns about other GOP candidates and refused to commit to supporting the eventual nominee in the general election.

“So many people want me to run as an independent, so many people,” Trump said. “I have been asked by — you have no idea, everybody wants me to do it.”

Pressed about whether he would back the Republican ticket if he fails to win the nomination himself, Trump left the door open for a third-party bid of his own. “I would have to see who the nominee is,” he said.

For now, Trump said, he thinks that the “best chance of defeating the Democrats” is for him to “win as a Republican because I don’t want to be splitting up votes.”.... Trump vows long campaign, won’t commit to backing GOP nominee

168 posted on 07/11/2015 5:58:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AdaGray

“The GOP is paying the price for not listening to its base.”

Well stated - that’s what I’ve been trying to say on this thread and others. If the Republicans in DC would simply LISTEN to their voters, Trump would have NOTHING to run on.

But the DC Republicans refuse to listen to us. I suspect the following:

1) They (incorrectly) think that we will vote for them, regardless of what they do or say, despite being proven wrong every time.

2) They want the Big Money that Rove waves in their faces.

3) They trust their ‘advisers’ (most of them gay, by the way) more than their phone calls or E-Mails, as these ‘advisers’ have now convinced them that the vast majority of constituent correspondence is orchestrated by Rush Limbaugh and other talk radio types and does not represent true Republican voters.

And they have gotten away with the above because, as in 2010 and 2014, people voted Republican...but only because they were angry as hell at the Democrats. When the Democrats don’t anger people...they vote Democrat, every time - because Democrats, unlike Republicans, actually give their voters something to vote for.


169 posted on 07/11/2015 6:02:53 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Praise the Lord! Uncle Jonah don' come down from New York City and be givn' us po' uneducated folks an innervention! Why, we's been listenin' to that fella Trump cuz' he's been stirrin' up all kinda trouble in the Republican Party with his talkin', speakin' to our hearts, ya know? Sayin' things that no other Republican wants to say but prob'ly should be sayin'!

People are hurtin', and the GOP keeps sayin' "Jes' wait, jes' wait", but Trump, he went and kicked the beehive, sayin' things we po' folks needed ta hear!

But thank the Lord, Uncle Jonah - who knows better'n us - told us to stay away from him! Trump's a fraud, he says! So, we's jes' better stay here cozy like inside the GOPe plantation, votin' for the "R"s and keep waitin' for them to get ta fixin' things.

It'll come...it'll come.

170 posted on 07/11/2015 6:03:04 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Its sad to see J Goldberg has given up the fight and sold out to the DC slave master logic.

He appears to have attended way too many Rnc and Peggy Noonan events .

He has a defeatist mentality .

I love the fact Trump has outed Goldberg and the entire phony conservative collaborators

171 posted on 07/11/2015 6:04:25 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can summarize this article in a few sentences: an imminently ignorable editor at NR is getting all butthurt over DT. DT did him an incredible favor by noticing the bootlicking little toad. So now he gets to spout off as if he were the martyr. This is his 15 minutes of fame.

(((Yawn))))


172 posted on 07/11/2015 6:04:30 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The only people being “played and conned” are the American people by the RINO establishment!

The American people have been played and conned by Boehner, McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, McCain, Flake, and on and on its goes! Goldberg did not mention the lies and con job these idiots have and are pulling on the American people, over and over again!

The establishment RINO supporters are clearly out in full force!

173 posted on 07/11/2015 6:04:46 AM PDT by paratrooper82 ( 82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN "Fury from the Sky" Civil war is coming)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump is making headlines and changing the national dialogue....it’s just the left’s misfortune that the illegal alien hiding in a sanctuary city killed a beautiful young woman. We now have martyrs to immigration failure....now to steer us into immigration enforcement, not immigration reform. A border fence, not more illegals. Trump is trying to do that. I will join that bandwagon.


174 posted on 07/11/2015 6:05:25 AM PDT by tioga
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To: EBH

“The goal is to split the Republican base and it is frightening that so many just don’t see it.

Hillary wins.”

And do you SERIOUSLY think that Jeb could hold a candle to her? Of course not. If Jeb were the nominee, there would be a 3rd Party conservative running, and I and 90% of this site would vote that way. I still haven’t seen ANY POSITION where Jeb differs from Hillary or the rest of the Democrat Party.

My top issue is the border, and I will vote for ANYONE that at least sounds serious about securing it - so far, mostly Trump, although Cruz is certainly in the running. The rest of the bunch has more or less (mostly more) conceded the issue.


175 posted on 07/11/2015 6:12:45 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Back when Jonah Goldberg first came on the scene, and began to get traction initially because of his mother’s conservative gravitas, he talked as though he believed pretty much what she did. But in a few short years he has degenerated into a combination of Karl Rove and Geraldo Rivera. I can no longer stand to listen to him. Fingernails on a chalkboard.


176 posted on 07/11/2015 6:13:40 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: central_va

“Trump is mowing down all the tall grass the GOPe likes to hide in.”

You have a way with words - dead on!


177 posted on 07/11/2015 6:13:53 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Count me as another that is enjoying Trump's mouth but I would never vote for him.

Consider this: Trump has got people talking about illegals. He's got the spotlight on one of our most severe problems. When I see the idiots from the view (as highlighted on FNC) spout off, "But how do they get back in??" I realize just how much illegal immigration has been swept under the rug.

If Trump can bring about a change to the conversation, then, I say, let's ride it for awhile.

178 posted on 07/11/2015 6:16:26 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Cruise with Cruz!)
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To: spodefly

“I would like to think you are right that he can win as a Republican, but my fear is that his ego, and the highly-skilled ability of the Republicans to self-immolate might push Trump to go 3rd Party”

He would be formidable as 3rd Party and will either win outright or hand it to Hillary, so it may not be very smart to try to isolate and alienate him in the Republican Party. Perhaps if Cruz ends up our nominee, Trump will support us...but just about anyone else will have to deal with Trump (and Hillary) in November.


179 posted on 07/11/2015 6:16:52 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: BobL
You have a way with words - dead on!

Thank you.

The Donald is the Buford Pusser of politics.

180 posted on 07/11/2015 6:19:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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