Posted on 07/10/2015 5:14:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
From the last Morning Jolt of the week: Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush
You may have gathered that I remain a skeptic about Donald Trump. Trump fans look at us skeptics with incredulity that we could possibly object to their man, and his ability to change the debate, and force the media to discuss topics like sanctuary cities.
Those of us not so enamored with Trump look at how that quality suddenly outranks all other qualities in a potential Republican presidential candidate including consistent conservatism.
Permit me to remind you about Donald Trumps assessment of President Bush back in 2008: Bush has been so bad, maybe the worst president in the history of this country. He has been so incompetent, so bad, so evil, that I dont think any Republican could have won. Evil? Evil? Of course, in the same interview, Trump endorsed diplomatic outreach with Iran. You know, you can be enemies with people, whether its Iran, Iraq, anyplace else and you can still have dialogue. These people wont even talk to him. Its terrible.
Wait, theres more! Check out his assessment of Obama!
VAN SUSTEREN: The new president-elect, what are your thoughts? Pretty exciting, its always exciting when we have a change of power, a transition, but what are your thoughts.
TRUMP: Its very exciting we have a new president. It would have been nice if he ended with a 500 point up instead of down. Its certainly very exciting. His speech was great last night. I thought it was inspiring in every way. And, hopefully hes going to do a great job. But the way I look at it, he cannot do worse than Bush.
VAN SUSTEREN: We know how you feel about this.
TRUMP: Its not me, its everybody. Its been a total catastrophe. Thats what happened to Republicans. They got run are out of office because we have president thats been so bad. And hes been a catastrophe, theres no question about it. He got us into a war we didnt need. You look at the money, were spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a war, and then people wonder why the economy isnt doing well. OPEC is ripping us off left and right, the oil countries are just ripping us off left and right. So you have wars, you have OPEC, all of this stuff. He didnt do anything about it. He sends Condoleezza Rice. She gets off a plane and waves to everybody and then leaves. Its ridiculous.
VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palindo you think well see her back in 2012? What are your thoughts on that?
TRUMP: I dont know. Theres a real questionshe certainly made things interesting, but the question is, did she help? I met her a couple of times. Shes really nice. I just dont know. I just have no answer for it. And then heres his thoughts on health care back in 1999
TRUMP: I think you have to have it, and, again, I said Im conservative, generally speaking, Im conservative, and even very conservative. But Im quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: Whats the purpose of a country if youre not going to have defensive and health care? If you cant take care of your sick in the country, forget it, its all over. I mean, its no good. So Im very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.
KING: So you believe, then, its an entitlement of birth?
TRUMP: I think it is. Its an entitlement to this country, and too bad the world cant be, you know, in this country. But the fact is, its an entitlement to this country if were going to have a great country. And then, as you probably saw, Trumps post-2012 comments on illegal immigration: Republicans didnt have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians, the billionaire developer says. The Democrats didnt have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they werent mean-spirited about it, Trump says. They didnt know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind. Romneys solution of self deportation for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says. He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal, Trump says. It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,
Trump notes. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country. The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,
Trump says. Yet I see people comparing Trump to Reagan.
Donald Trump has been a conservative for about ten minutes.
Trump has a solid history of conservatism going back many weeks.
I like what Trump is saying, but I don’t trust him any farther than I can throw him....and I have a bad arm.
Boy was Trump ever wrong about Obama in 2008. Our enemies couldn’t have done a better job at destroying the nation using their military or nukes! for that matter.
Counting down to the arrival of the swarm of head in the sand Trump apologists in 3....2....1...
....nicely played sir....that's gonna leave a mark.....
Did you see the interview yesterday, not ruling out a third party run? Cue: President Clinton (or hell, maybe President Sanders!!!)
I think it probably would be wise to ask Trump what his position is on these things today, as, naturally, a lot has happened since 2008. I don’t see him there automatically bashing Palin. I do see him there wanting to appeal to both liberals and republicans at the same time, and that’s probably business.
He’s probably a loose canon on all sorts of issues, but I would be happy to vote for him if he keeps his position strong on Immigration, as well as on OPEC, Mexico and China. I’m not sure that our candidate, any candidate we choose, is going to be perfect. But if we have a candidate who will listen and obey the voters, that might make him worthwhile.
I don’t think any of us are fooled by Trump we just love seeing the enemedia taken to the woodshed. Too bad the GOP has not been able to figure that out.
So longer than Romney, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and John Casich combined.
> I like what Trump is saying, but I dont trust him any farther than I can throw him....and I have a bad arm.
He is a good entertainer and he is saying a lot of what needs to be said right now but I remember promises he made before that he didn’t deliver on. I’d like to see Cruz start advancing in the ranks because he has ahiwn true courage in the past and has stood against the tyrant in the WH on several occassions. The only place I have any problems with Cruz was on his vote on the TPA and TPP issue which looks like he didn’t fully understand what the end implications were but then again they weren’t letting out all the text or details about them at first. None of the candidates are going to 100 % perfect.
He's good for a laugh though.
What about the above Donald's comments is not true? Like it or not, we got Obama because years of the Iraq war with no workable end game, and the financial meltdown. Bush was in office. Who else should he have blamed? Why would Donald not hope Obama would do a good job?
No doubt in my mind, the amnesty branch if the Republican party is scared poop-less.
Trump ain’t gonna get the nomination, Jeb (the man with no last name) will be the nominee and lose to Hillary.
However, the GOPe and others are quaking in their boots over the fact that Trump has brought the illegal alien issue to the front and center and they just may have to make a definitive statement about their position.
Which would be a valid comment, if anyone here was pushing Jeb, Christie, or Kasich.
And actually, over his lifetime, he’s probably to the left of all of those guys.
“I dont think any of us are fooled by Trump ...”
The scolds are something like nuns having seen a muscular construction worker with his shirt off, aren’t they: disapproving but also a little `het up’?
LOL. Donald is fearless and unapologetic in his direct assault upon the liberal PC worldview, which is a breath of fresh air in politics.
But he is not a conservative nor a potential POTUS.
My hope is that he helps the conservative(s) who can win by making them appear less "extreme" as well as showing all of the gOpE how to win by fighting rather than compromising.
The media would ignore Trump if they didn’t want him to win the nomination.
I think Trump only differs from the RINO brigade on illegal immigration and jobs but I’m so fed up with the GOP that if Republicans nominate Bush, I hope Trump runs as an independent.
Donald Trump is an unstable element inserted into an unsettled environment. Sooner or later there will be a boom.
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