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Greece votes No: The European Union is dying before our eyes
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | July 6th, 2015 | By Nigel Farage

Posted on 07/06/2015 7:11:47 AM PDT by Mariner

Despite the scaremongering and bullying from those in Brussels, we are waking today with Greece having delivered a resounding No.

That comes despite EU bosses saying that it would mean a Greek exit from the Euro, not to mention the heavy economic pressure placed on the Greek people to go along with the wishes of Brussels. It is a crushing defeat for those Eurocrats who believe that you can simply bulldoze public opinion.

Chief bully-boy Martin Schulz, President of the European Parliament, and other supposed leaders of the European Union did their best to terrify the Greek people into submitting to the wishes of the European Union. But they utterly failed. The fear espoused by the Yes campaign was rejected. Opinion polls that put the Yes side ahead just days before were way out, as thousands upon thousands of Greek citizens lined the streets chanting “Oxi”.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexistsipras; europeanunion; france; germany; greece; nato; syriza; unitedkingdom
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To: Mariner

The Euro was a huge mistake since the stability of the currency would be tied to the worst economies in Europe. It was only a matter of time that one or more of these economic basket cases would collapse, despite ridiculous bailouts by the stronger economies. The Euro was a house of cards destined to collapse.


41 posted on 07/06/2015 9:53:59 AM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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To: PTBAA

If that be the case, the money that the U. S. Government steals every day from wage earners (aka income taxes) is also immoral, and we don’t have to pay it.

See how far you get with that one.


42 posted on 07/06/2015 10:08:41 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Mariner

This is a great setback for globalism! Thank God! Down with the EU. Up with freedom and self rule!


43 posted on 07/06/2015 10:32:09 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Lord North

Oh my good heavenly grief. I admire Don Quixote and his singular purpose even though he was a fool.

I made it clear to separate the two, i.e. the people + their beliefs and what they did via a vote. And I am hardly alone here in being quite pleased with them sticking it to the EU.

If you can’t see the separation, well ... can’t make it any more clear. There are people Conservatives admire who are deadbeat welfare queens and they like them ONLY because of their politics.


44 posted on 07/06/2015 11:04:19 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Teacher317

“I agree with your sentiment 100 percent...”

Great. At least we agree on that!

“but you’re adorably and appallingly naive if you think Greece’s populace or government will do ANYTHING to “transition” themselves back to growth.”

There is one path out for Greece:
1. Declare a moritorium on all debt repayments/interest
2. Immediately print and convert electronic accounts to drachmas
3. Eliminate income tax
4. Continue with reforms.

“They routinely refuse to pass ANY austerity measures,”

They do not need additional “austerity” to change. This is the German view that deals with hyperinflation.

“growing numbers of Greeks are pretending to be handicapped to gain even more generous “free” benefits (claiming blindness is a current favorite),”

Yes, they model themselves after millions of able-bodied Americans who cannot find work and have back injuries to collect Social Security Disability.

“and they march whenever their representatives dare to threaten to actually cut ANY of their benefits.”

Pass. No one wants all they have to live on reduced.

“They simply voted to avoid paying for the supports they’ve been given so far.”

Voted correctly.

“Now they will collapse on their own, rather than while a member of the EU.”

They haven’t left the EU or the euro yet - and Brussels doesn’t want to allow them to leave. They must, however leave to be restored.

“The collapse IS coming. They won’t reduce benefits, and they aren’t a growing economy, so they will HAVE to print money now that the gravy train of foreign money will stop (unless China or Russia decide they want a colony on the Med).”

I agree with you that if they do not make the necessary changes, they will have a much harder time.

“Once they print money, the value of that currency will quickly drop, and the death spiral begins. “

Not necessarily. US case in point.


45 posted on 07/06/2015 11:05:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
What tyranny are they wanting to break free from except the shackles of reality?

Absolutely. Anyone who sees any heroics in the Greek actions is living out a drama inside their own head.

Out in the real world, the Greeks are trying to coerce more payments from more working people in the rest of Europe. The only thing the Greeks lack to make their "revolution" perfect is eubonics.

46 posted on 07/06/2015 11:11:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Could you please save that Neo-Confederate claptrap for some other, more relevant thread?


47 posted on 07/06/2015 2:57:36 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: Lord North

Are you asking me?


48 posted on 07/06/2015 3:35:44 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yea, if they actually have to end up paying for their socialism, then maybe they’ll end up getting a clue. Eventually you run out of other people’s money. Germany’s in this case.


49 posted on 07/06/2015 3:47:17 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Mariner

Cool. Hopefully I’ll live to see it fly apart at the seams.

L


50 posted on 07/06/2015 3:49:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: martin_fierro

51 posted on 07/07/2015 3:16:33 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Cleganebowl 2016 - GET HYPE!)
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