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Marching boldly into the New Post-homophobic Christianity
Hot Air.com ^ | July 5, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 07/05/2015 6:44:50 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

The author’s a whiner. If you have anything in the way of faith, resist. Don’t accept this garbage. Don’t attend gay “weddings”. Don’t let your children be coerced at school or anywhere else.

Support your churches or synagogues unless they support this nightmare - find another that doesn’t support gay anything.

Support businesses under attack.

Write those idiots we elected and tell them that this is obscene and unacceptable. Flood their mailboxes and computers.

Show your faith and some courage: the last time they used lions to kill us - we can stand up to this stuff in our sleep.


21 posted on 07/05/2015 7:03:47 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Kaslin

The gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church.That’s God’s promise. He may have to destroy the USA, however.


22 posted on 07/05/2015 7:05:12 PM PDT by txrefugee (In)
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To: SaveFerris

And they already had performed same sex marriages.. and should have recused themselves, but no one cared enough to do what should have been done.


23 posted on 07/05/2015 7:05:43 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Kaslin
Tolerance should require a two-way street. Intolerance of people who due to faith and worship are constrained by faith from believing or holding a view that homosexuality and marriage are compatible, are impossible for those who follow God in both the Old and New Testament.

Are the homosexuals just intolerant themselves? Or do homosexuals renounce Christians because they know they are not acceptable to God and that God's Word forbids homosexual conduct, period. Attack the Christian but not the God? Attack Jesus by attacking Christians, but Muhammad forbid they attack Islam...

The homosexuals attack Christians on the basis of twisted view of Jesus's teachings. The best a Christian can do for homosexuals is to PRAY their sin does not lead to both spiritual and physical death.

Why do the homosexuals not attack the Word of God? Why do they focus on Jesus? Is it because there is no way to twist the Bible of the Old Testament but attacking the followers of Jesus is easier, and for Christians taking on faith Jesus is the Son of God and then became God Himself somehow destroys the Old Testament simply because of sacrifice?

The homosexuals can only attack Christians but not the Bible, period. Christians should understand this and untwist their arguments and accept the original Word of God, before Christ/Jesus and understand that they too. Rejecting in part the Old Testament in arguments for Christ is how homosexuals are able to attack Christians and the words of Jesus, but they never attempt to reject the Word of God.

24 posted on 07/05/2015 7:12:09 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ronnietherocket3
I keep reading this. Does anyone know if this actually true?

Not in America. If it were, all those wills from my family in this country going back four hundred years would be rather silly.

25 posted on 07/05/2015 7:12:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I understand the temptation to defeatism, but that doesn't mean I approve of it.)
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To: Kaslin

“Now that gay marriage (or just any old marriage if you prefer) is a “constitutionally assured right” in the United States...”
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Five old robed farts declaring that gay marriage is okay doesn’t by any stretch make it constitutional.


26 posted on 07/05/2015 7:15:29 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: Kaslin
the law has to be followed.

Not when it violates the laws of nature and nature's God or the Constitution it doesn't.

That such laws are NULL AND VOID is a fundamental principle of western civilization going back through Hamilton, and Blackstone, and Locke, and Aquinas, all the way to Cicero.

And court opinions don't rise to the level of laws anyway. They're just court opinions, rendered in a particular case. That's all. Nothing more.

27 posted on 07/05/2015 7:16:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I understand the temptation to defeatism, but that doesn't mean I approve of it.)
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To: Kaslin; GeronL; MeshugeMikey
As for everyone else, including florists and county clerks, yes, you will now have to provide the same services to straight couples that you provide to gay couples. Don’t like it? Find a new job.

Insist that one of the men wear a dress with a veil. The standard photo posings for wedding photographers don't work with "2 dudes".

Think of 10 standard shots in every wedding package:

The kiss

The extended family (their own families often choose not to attend)

The cake cutting

The garter

The couple together with the groom's arms around the bride and he stands behind her...

etc.

MANY of the posings are focused exclusively on the bride. What do you do with both members of the couple are wearing suits?

And there are wedding photographers who advertise that they SPECIALIZE in same sex wedding ceremonies. How can they "opt out" of traditional marriages like that?

Now that SSM is here (by judicial decree), I've seen some DJs and other service providers offering their services to the first (2 or 3) same sex couples that request their services at a wedding. Doesn't that discriminate against everyone else? Can you charge a different price for "specialized" weddings? Can you turn down a nudist ceremony? A satanic ceremony?

I heard a rabbi on the air say that it is like working at McDonald's. Serving them does not imply support for what they are doing. Does that mean that the rabbi should also be performing same sex ceremonies since he's just saying the words he is paid to say? Can I get a halal restaurant to serve me a pulled pork sandwich? It's just a sandwich, no implication of support...

28 posted on 07/05/2015 7:18:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: frnewsjunkie
"and should have recused themselves, but no one cared enough to do what should have been done."

Kind of like the gay judge in CA that overturned prop.8.

He had a VESTED interest in doing that.

It's like having Vito Corleone on the bench deciding cases involving the Mafia.

The ONLY silver lining is that for NOW we have the First Amendment.

AFAIK, no other country has that.

So In Canada, you can literally be fined or go to jail for preaching Biblical passages, if they make someone, *anyone* feel uncomfortable.

In the US, you'd normally be laughed out of court for trying that as a basis for criminal action.

But I fear that some judge, somewhere will rule against the First.

And SCOTUS will agree.

29 posted on 07/05/2015 7:18:51 PM PDT by boop (Hey, stoop, that's got gears. It ain't no Ford.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Are the wills men leaving their possessions to their wives and daughters?


30 posted on 07/05/2015 7:19:20 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

yeah.


31 posted on 07/05/2015 7:21:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I understand the temptation to defeatism, but that doesn't mean I approve of it.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

It was so in Ancient Israel...and remains so in some “african” tribal “societies” today


32 posted on 07/05/2015 7:24:27 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: lightman

Snort.


33 posted on 07/05/2015 7:25:08 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: ronnietherocket3

Although, daughters did tend to get the short end of the stick. As did younger sons.

Widows seemed to do quite well though.


34 posted on 07/05/2015 7:26:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I understand the temptation to defeatism, but that doesn't mean I approve of it.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Id take the photographs ..alright and Id catch the subject at all the wrong times and at all the wrong angles..

it would be well worth the effort


35 posted on 07/05/2015 7:26:30 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Kaslin

“...but I admit yet again that I didn’t foresee how wide the litigants would push the door in the other direction if they prevailed in proving that it was.”

What a dolt. I was saying to my friends in the 90s when ACTUP was everywhere in the Bay Area that this is where it would all lead.....Of course even the homosexuals denied that this is what would happen. I made em put money on it. Louses still haven’t paid up


36 posted on 07/05/2015 7:27:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: ronnietherocket3
Pretty much:
England was not a comfortable place for most women. Medieval women invariably had a hard time in an era when many men lived harsh lives. A few women lived comfortable lives but Medieval society was completely dominated by men and women had to know ‘their place’ in such a society.

Medieval society would have been very traditional. Women had little or no role to play within the country at large. Within towns, society would have effectively dictated what jobs a woman could do and her role in a medieval village would have been to support her husband. As well as doing her daily work, whether in a town or village, a woman would have had many responsibilities with regards to her family.

Within a village, women would have done many of the tasks men did on the land. However, they were paid less for doing the same job. Documents from Medieval England relating to what the common person did are rare, but some do exist which examine what villages did. For reaping, a man could get 8 pence a day. For the same task, women would get 5 pence. For hay making, men would earn 6 pence a day while women got 4 pence. In a male dominated society, no woman would openly complain about this disparity.

About 90% of all women lived in rural areas and were therefore involved in some form of farm work.

In medieval towns, women would have found it difficult to advance into a trade as medieval guilds frequently barred women from joining them. Therefore, a skilled job as recognised by a guild was usually out of reach for any woman living in a town. Within towns, women were usually allowed to do work that involved some form of clothes making but little else.

“Various people of the weavers’ craft in Bristol employ their wives, daughters and maids either to weave at their looms, or to work for someone else at the same craft.”From records of 1461.

For many women, a life as a servant for the rich was all they could hope for. Such work was demanding and poorly rewarded.

The law, set by men, also greatly limited the freedom of women. Women were:

not allowed to marry without their parents’ consent

could own no business with special permission

not allowed to divorce their husbands

could not own property of any kind unless they were widows

could not inherit land from their parents’ if they had any surviving brothers

Many women from rich backgrounds would have married when they were teenagers. Medieval society had a different outlook to children when compared to today. Children from poor families would have worked from the earliest age possible and they were treated as adults from the age of ten or eleven. Many girls from poor families did not get married until they were in their twenties.

Girls from richer families tended to marry earlier than girls from poor families. The poorer families needed as many working for them as was possible, so a daughter getting married at an early age would have deprived them of a worker. This was not true for a rich family. Girls had no choice over who they married and many girls from rich families were usually married to someone as a political gesture or because it was an advantage to the girl’s family itself – as opposed to what the girl herself wanted. Once married, the young lady came under the control of her husband.

Producing a male heir within a rich family was considered vital. So many women spent a great deal of their married life pregnant. However, childbirth was dangerous as medical care was so poor. It is thought that as many as 20% of all women died in childbirth and it was the most common cause of death among young women.

Wives from a rich family usually did not look after their children. This was done by a wet nurse. Women from a poor family not only had to look after the children but had to continue doing her day-to-day work both in the home and on the land. Many women from poor families did not live past the age of forty.

Source
37 posted on 07/05/2015 7:28:56 PM PDT by moose07 (Islam and the New Stone age: A book i've not yet written.)
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To: Kaslin

Those Christians will be surprised when they hear “I never new you.”


38 posted on 07/05/2015 7:29:59 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: Kaslin

This would be a great place to post the graphic of Theodon saying, “And so it begins.” (although it began in reality years ago).

On FB, I’ve seen a HUGE step back by people of faith posting anything that the left could use against them as “homophobic”. The fascists will next seek to stop anyone from saying that homosexual marriage is wrong, ala Canada.


39 posted on 07/05/2015 7:30:45 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood

Knew^ ffs - yah “I never knew you!”


40 posted on 07/05/2015 7:30:45 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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