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To: Hostage
You mentioned they will use the Convention of States to expand the reach of the Commerce Clause to effect gun rights under the mission of ‘States Rights and Control of States Rights’. Put forth a concise lawyerly procedure of specifically how they would do such a thing? How would they persuade at least 34 state legislatures to do such a thing?

Nice try. I didn't say that.

Can you address what I *did* say?

213 posted on 07/08/2015 12:39:19 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

> “Nice try. I didn’t say that.”

Yes, you did.

> “Can you address what I *did* say?”

No, I won’t do that because it’s all here in your posts:

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It’s hard to imagine a topic that couldn’t be smuggled into this convention based on that mission. There are plenty of voices who would like to ***diminish states rights***, and as you state later in your post everything from fiscal matters to healthcare to land use to culture would be on the table.

#197______________________________________________
the list is long, and the flip side of any argument to limit federal authority is an argument to ***move more control from the states to the fed***.

I’m well aware of the other safeguards in the Article V process that would serve to prevent such amendments from being adopted, but they could certainly ***come in under the open ended “states rights” topic***. I’m pointing out that the “mission” could be a double-edged sword.

My main point is that I think entering into a convention with such a ***broad mandate and without specific amendment proposals is doomed to fail***. I don’t see how pushing the sausage-making into such a high-profile, high-pressure setting could possibly work in today’s world.

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You’re assuming the consequent that focusing on “States Rights and Control of States Rights” means limiting federal power. It could just as ***easily mean limiting states rights***.

I don’t have a particular one in mind but it doesn’t take much imagination. How about explicitly ***expanding the Commerce Clause to encroach on things like state gun laws*** as has been tried by the left in the past?


216 posted on 07/08/2015 1:02:16 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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