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1 posted on 07/01/2015 3:56:31 PM PDT by betty boop
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An interesting vanity essay on an Amendments Convention. Worth reading.


2 posted on 07/01/2015 4:01:23 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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Very good, Betty Boop!


3 posted on 07/01/2015 4:05:16 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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Before changing the Constitution ENFORCE it.


4 posted on 07/01/2015 4:06:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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who is ‘we’? You mean “we the people” that elected Obama, Clinton and the RINOs? “we the people” elected Presidents that chose all these Supreme Court justices. “we the people” elected a Republican congress that allowed Obama to do whatever he wanted.


5 posted on 07/01/2015 4:07:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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"You only need 67 States to advance it; but you need 75 States to ratify it."

Well OK then.

8 posted on 07/01/2015 4:16:06 PM PDT by mlo
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To: betty boop

YES!!!!!!!


9 posted on 07/01/2015 4:17:37 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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WHAT IF!.... the people(generally) have become corrupt in some ways and in various degrees...

AND....... they have exactly a federal givernment they want, need, desire, and it matches them exactly.. (GENERALLY)..

Only an ultra-optimist would not believe this..

People can change for the better in mass.. also; people can change for the worse in mass..

People that refuse to rise up against EVIL in some way.. are enablers of Evil.. and ARE in fact.. Evil..

One thing overlooked by you above as almost all debaters do...

IS...... voter fraud.. not just normal voter fraud thats always present.. BUT large scale organized well thought out connected grass roots massive voter fraud.. not addressed by any authority or even the republican that being effected COMPLETELY..

Voter fraud so deeply ensconced some districts had 150% of the voters vote in 2012 and probably well before that.. some places more than 150%..

AND thats the places even checked/caught.. with little or NO outrage..
Seems NOBODY wants to think out it.... I could be WRONG, and hope I am to some degree..

But alas; as the bible foretells, (some say).. THIS MUST HAPPEN..


Really though... As a fruit rots (on the ground) it fertilizes a new TREE..
I love Trees.. a new one would be Cool..

Bonus: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iu92zs5gg2bwuy3/FIRE.avi?dl=0
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11 posted on 07/01/2015 4:30:57 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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I’m watching Texas. If they secede, I’m over there.


25 posted on 07/01/2015 5:17:27 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: betty boop
Curing Federal Dysfunction by Constitutional amendment: A Primer

And Prof Natelson's website: Our American Constitution

Both are worth a look-see.

29 posted on 07/01/2015 5:40:43 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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A nice opinion. A few typos. I do not support a constitutional amendment defining marriage. Our problems are far deeper than that. The author is quite correct about repeal of the 17th. Additionally we need an amendment allowing a majority of the state legislatures to nullify Supreme Court decisions. There is simply no other recourse to address Supreme Court tyranny. Both of these proposed amendments have a very difficult road to ratification. The linchpin of the left’s power is the SCOTUS. All of their other victories were made possible by Supreme Court dictates. And the court protects those dictates. Don't kid yourself, there was never any concern about the constitutionally of their major decisions on the part of liberal judges. They just use whatever camouflage needed to impose their will upon the nation. While I fully support the Article V Convention of States, I am very concerned we are far too late implement it. Our state legislatures are too corrupt or in the pawl of the corrupt. Pray folks!
34 posted on 07/01/2015 6:07:24 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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Thanks for the article, but it misses a big problem. Anything that a covention of states passes would be subject to ratification by 3/4 of the states. Any meaningful change could be scuttled by 13 states. States like VT, CA, IL, and MA. The math of article V just doesn’t work. That said, I don’t think it’s harmful. So if folks would rather do article V stuff then watch cable, then have at it.

Political change is going to come as a result of the secession of one or more states.


36 posted on 07/01/2015 6:14:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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Be careful for what you ask. Just because you have an Article V convention doesn’t mean that you get what you want. If conducted at the wrong time, instead of getting a better explained 2nd Amendment you might end up with no “right to bear arms.”


44 posted on 07/01/2015 6:53:26 PM PDT by Purdue77 ("shall not be infringed")
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And I think that you meant to say 2/3 (.667 or 67%) of the States to advance and 3/4 (.750 or 75%) of the states to ratify.


45 posted on 07/01/2015 6:53:26 PM PDT by Purdue77 ("shall not be infringed")
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Congress — that is to say, the House of Representatives — has the constitutional power to instruct the Court, going forward,...

I agree that the authority granted to Congress by Article III is a plenary power and does not require Presidential approval or is it subject to Judicial review. The power, however, is granted to Congress which is defined in the Constitution as being the Senate and House of Representatives.

A practical regulation would be to require a super majority (2/3 or 3/4) vote of the Supreme Court to overturn a law enacted by Congress or a provision included in a State Constitution.

As to the Article V Convention, opponents always emphasise the fear of an out of control convention eliminating the 2nd Amendment or some other provision we hold dear. Two points on that. First, members of the convention would be appointed by the States which are mostly conservative. It is unlikely that any member of the congress would be appointed. Second, the requirement for ratification by 3/4th of the states would make harmful results quite unlikely just as it would make beneficial results very difficult.

Repeal of the 17th amendment would do more to re-establish the balance achieved by the original framers than any other one act possible.

I congratulate you for thinking outside the box and thank you for your effort. Everything has to start somewhere. Looking for solutions is far better than descending into defeatism.

51 posted on 07/01/2015 7:55:43 PM PDT by etcb
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Yes to a convention of states.


53 posted on 07/01/2015 8:43:52 PM PDT by caww
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Yes, and we need new officeholders and new justices. And we need defiance.


59 posted on 07/01/2015 9:24:38 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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67 States to advance,
75 States to ratify...

How did we get so many States? That’s even more than Obama’s 57!


61 posted on 07/01/2015 9:28:29 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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Many people have been saying we need an Article V convention for some time now. Why did Obergefell push you over the edge?


86 posted on 07/02/2015 8:21:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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An Article V convention that produces something useful (i.e. balanced budget) would be good. Voting Republican doesn't seem to work.

I hope that we don't have to vote from the roof tops.

5.56mm

111 posted on 07/02/2015 11:50:33 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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I forgot. Good afternoon. Good post. I hope you are doing well.

5.56mm

112 posted on 07/02/2015 11:52:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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