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Baltimore Police Union Forces City Leadership To Admit They Gave “Stand Down Orders” (shortened)
Conservative Treehouse ^ | Jun 30, 2015 | Sundance

Posted on 06/30/2015 10:02:16 PM PDT by Ray76

The Baltimore Police Union is demanding public records of radio transmissions and email notifications to prove the leadership in the Baltimore Police Department, specifically Police Chief Batts, told officers NOT to stop the riots and looting.

Facing the probability the police union is going to succeed in their endeavor to put sunlight upon the truth the Mayor, Police Chief Batts and his leadership team are now having to admit they did tell the officers to ‘stand down’. You can listen to some of the audio transmission here.

...and questions have been raised about why Mayor Rawlings-Blake and Chief Batts would be so willing to allow the rioting mob “space to destroy”.

So lets take a look at the possible ‘Higher-Ups’ who would have contact with Baltimore leadership and simultaneously carry the power to give such guidance.


(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: anthonybatts; baltimore; baltimoreriots; baltimorestanddown; blackkk; elijahcummings; martinomalley; maryland; ordertostanddown; police; rawlingsblake; riots; spacedestroy; spacetodestroy; watchman
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To: FreeReign
Are you upset that the Democrat political machine has been outed for giving a stand down order?

I don't find it surprising that they gave that kind of order. But Democrat political machine or Democrat union machine, I have a hard time seeing the hero in any of this.

41 posted on 07/01/2015 9:18:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Ray76

“How is that any different than links to articles posted here?”

CTH wrote their whole article by paraphrasing the Balt Sun article; FR allows only limited excerpting.

that’s the difference.


42 posted on 07/01/2015 9:28:16 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: FreeReign

“No thanks. I prefer the Conservative Treehouse over the (LOL)Baltimore Sun.”

and yet, without the Balt Sun article CTH paraphrased,there would have been no CTH article. go figure.


43 posted on 07/01/2015 9:29:15 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mariner
So they will vote GOP if the GOP ditches social issues. Well that's happening right now, so we will see. Of course for every “fiscal conservative” they gain, they are losing me and all the others like me. And growing government by ditching social conservatives, so, so much for their “fiscal conservatism”. For example, they don't support capitalism, they support crony capitalism, which is a different thing and not fiscally conservative (”too big to fail”, etc).
44 posted on 07/01/2015 9:35:15 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: catnipman

15 of the first 16 paragraphs are posted in their entirety, the seventh being omitted and is indicated by an ellipsis. You have claimed the article “cherry picked” the Balt. Sun article and now you claim they’ve paraphrased the Balt. Sun article.

I’m not interested in defending some website, I am interested in why you mischaracterize it. Apparently the article makes you uncomfortable, why is that?


45 posted on 07/01/2015 9:43:38 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Ray76

“you have claimed the article “cherry picked” the Balt. Sun article”

you’ve got me mixed up with another poster, dude.


46 posted on 07/01/2015 10:10:52 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
..and yet, without the Balt Sun article CTH paraphrased,there would have been no CTH article. go figure.

Really? How do you "figure" that there would be no CTH article without the Baltimore Sun article?

And why should one limit ones reading to such an apologist paper?

"Figure" that.

47 posted on 07/01/2015 10:16:10 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ray76

48 posted on 07/01/2015 10:28:43 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: mrsmel

Totally agree.


49 posted on 07/01/2015 10:29:27 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: catnipman; USNBandit

My mistake, you did not say “cherry picked” USNBandit said that.

You said the article paraphrased the Balt Sun (post 42), claimed they “ripped off” the Balt Sun article, called for the CTH site to be banned, and agreed with USNBandit’s “cherry pick” characterization (post 28).


50 posted on 07/01/2015 10:33:17 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Ray76

correctomonday.


51 posted on 07/01/2015 10:58:51 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: FreeReign

“Really? How do you “figure” that there would be no CTH article without the Baltimore Sun article? “

because the entire CTH post was a paraphrase, direct quote and/or commentary on the info in balt sun article:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-riot-deployments-20150629-story.html#page=1

the CTH post even had two direct links to the balt sun article it was derived from.


52 posted on 07/01/2015 11:02:48 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

The article was not “ripped off”, attribution was given and a link provided. Neither did the article “paraphrase” or “cherry pick”.

The article provides solid evidence (White House visitor logs, audio of police radio) to support the claim that the White House is involved in orchestrating unrest.

Why would a FR poster mischaracterize a source? Are you connected in some manner with those involved?

If you dislike that site for some reason, go there and discuss it with them. There’s no good reason to drag a FR thread off topic and into your personal problem with some other website.


53 posted on 07/01/2015 11:13:12 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: kearnyirish2

I agree. Not only will there be follow on black presidents but it will be difficult for a republican to ever win the Presidency again to demographic shifts.


54 posted on 07/01/2015 11:18:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: catnipman
because the entire CTH post was a paraphrase, direct quote and/or commentary on the info in balt sun article:

What?

The police recordings are publicly available. CTH cited Fox Baltimore as their source of information recordings.

CTH cited several newsworthy quotes from a Baltimore Sun interview.

They didn't direct quote the Sun, they didn't paraphrase the Sun and they certainly didn't use commentary from the biased rag, The Baltimore Sun.

I think you are mixed up.

55 posted on 07/01/2015 11:25:50 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ray76

I have followed the Conservative Treehouse articles since Zimmerman and I must testify to their diligence in uncovering truth. They are like FR in that they have many participants who challenge what is posted and they seem to do an excellent job self policing their own accuracy.

In addition, they have done fine work in connecting dots that for some reason the MSM fails at.


56 posted on 07/01/2015 12:19:05 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: FreeReign

two thirds of the CTH article is a direct quote of the Balt Sun article:

“(VIA Baltimore Sun) Baltimore police commanders acknowledge that they ordered officers not to engage rioters multiple times on the day of Freddie Gray‘s funeral but said they did so to protect officers and citizens as they prioritized life over property.

In an interview with The Baltimore Sun, police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts and six top commanders who directed deployments on April 27 denied that they gave blanket orders to do nothing as rioters looted, raided businesses and even attacked officers with impunity.

More than two months after riots broke out across Baltimore, top brass and rank-and-file officers continue to spar over how platoons of officers were deployed that day. About 160 officers were injured in the riots and businesses suffered millions of dollars in damage.

Batts has repeatedly denied issuing a “stand down” order — akin to ordering a withdrawal — while officers say they were in effect given such an order, either over the radio or in person, when they were told “do not engage” or “hold the line.”

Commanders told The Sun that they asked officers to “hold the line” as part of an overall deployment strategy to create a barrier between rioters and police operations and potentially vulnerable people. If officers broke lines during a face-off with rock-throwing protesters, for instance, they could be isolated and surrounded by mobs. And if officers broke the line to make arrests, they might have been forced to guard them amid all the chaos when transport vans weren’t available.

“There’s an amount of discipline necessary to navigate your way through a civil disturbance,” Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis said.

baltimore mayor selfie[…] The union has requested texts, emails and radio transmissions between police commanders and City Hall for review. As of Tuesday, the union had received only one tape from the voluminous riot transmission record.

The police union’s president, Lt. Gene Ryan, said the Police Department could clear up any misconceptions or rumors by releasing the requested communications.

“If they have nothing to hide — and they always talk about being transparent — how come they haven’t given me the tapes of the radio transmissions?” Ryan said. “If they have nothing to hide, why not give me what we asked them for?”

Police have said they will share information, and both the agency and Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake say they have called for their own probes into how deployments were handled.

Some officers have said they believe the mayor was behind the alleged “stand down” order so Baltimore police would not look as aggressive as body-armor-wearing officers responding to unrest last year in Ferguson, Mo.

Rawlings-Blake has denied that and said she would never allow people to loot, destroy or burn businesses.

“The mayor never gave an order to police to stand down, and there have been multiple officers who have come forward and have said there was no such order given either by the mayor or by the command staff,” spokesman Kevin Harris said. “I can say unequivocally that the mayor never gave such an order or told the command staff to give such an order.”

Batts and his top commanders said officers are confusing “stand down” with “hold the line” — a command they acknowledge was given repeatedly.

Their objective was simple, according to Deputy Commissioner Dean Palmere: “Protect assets, protect life.” (read more)”


57 posted on 07/01/2015 1:05:37 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ray76

two thirds of the CTH article is a direct quote of the Balt Sun article:

“(VIA Baltimore Sun) Baltimore police commanders acknowledge that they ordered officers not to engage rioters multiple times on the day of Freddie Gray‘s funeral but said they did so to protect officers and citizens as they prioritized life over property.

In an interview with The Baltimore Sun, police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts and six top commanders who directed deployments on April 27 denied that they gave blanket orders to do nothing as rioters looted, raided businesses and even attacked officers with impunity.

More than two months after riots broke out across Baltimore, top brass and rank-and-file officers continue to spar over how platoons of officers were deployed that day. About 160 officers were injured in the riots and businesses suffered millions of dollars in damage.

Batts has repeatedly denied issuing a “stand down” order — akin to ordering a withdrawal — while officers say they were in effect given such an order, either over the radio or in person, when they were told “do not engage” or “hold the line.”

Commanders told The Sun that they asked officers to “hold the line” as part of an overall deployment strategy to create a barrier between rioters and police operations and potentially vulnerable people. If officers broke lines during a face-off with rock-throwing protesters, for instance, they could be isolated and surrounded by mobs. And if officers broke the line to make arrests, they might have been forced to guard them amid all the chaos when transport vans weren’t available.

“There’s an amount of discipline necessary to navigate your way through a civil disturbance,” Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis said.

baltimore mayor selfie[…] The union has requested texts, emails and radio transmissions between police commanders and City Hall for review. As of Tuesday, the union had received only one tape from the voluminous riot transmission record.

The police union’s president, Lt. Gene Ryan, said the Police Department could clear up any misconceptions or rumors by releasing the requested communications.

“If they have nothing to hide — and they always talk about being transparent — how come they haven’t given me the tapes of the radio transmissions?” Ryan said. “If they have nothing to hide, why not give me what we asked them for?”

Police have said they will share information, and both the agency and Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake say they have called for their own probes into how deployments were handled.

Some officers have said they believe the mayor was behind the alleged “stand down” order so Baltimore police would not look as aggressive as body-armor-wearing officers responding to unrest last year in Ferguson, Mo.

Rawlings-Blake has denied that and said she would never allow people to loot, destroy or burn businesses.

“The mayor never gave an order to police to stand down, and there have been multiple officers who have come forward and have said there was no such order given either by the mayor or by the command staff,” spokesman Kevin Harris said. “I can say unequivocally that the mayor never gave such an order or told the command staff to give such an order.”

Batts and his top commanders said officers are confusing “stand down” with “hold the line” — a command they acknowledge was given repeatedly.

Their objective was simple, according to Deputy Commissioner Dean Palmere: “Protect assets, protect life.” (read more)”


58 posted on 07/01/2015 1:05:54 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

So what? If you disapprove of how they excerpted an article complain to them, not us!


59 posted on 07/01/2015 1:17:58 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Buttons12

Thanks. These imports are trafficked here to prevent the social Darwinism that created ghost towns during the Gold Rush; without them school districts would close, and masses of government workers would be laid off. Instead, we just fly in a replacement population (with no minimum requirements at all) and pretend the northeast isn’t completely obsolete...

In the end, the whites will get the bill (wherever they go); ObamaCare, food stamps, Section 8, and school lunch programs are national programs instead of state for a reason. The Democrats have created true “national socialism”.


60 posted on 07/01/2015 1:31:32 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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