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To: nathanbedford
The question is whether you would rather have war even if you could have the government you want by peaceful means?

I reject the entire premise of your question as an absurdity given history, human nature and the fruits of the tyrants now ruling us.

It's not possible, so there is no point in answering a fantasy.

I believe you're concealing a mad desire to make war.

A typical response I would expect from a liberal, not someone on FR. You ignore what the Ruling Class tyrants are saying and DOING and instead you accuse ME of having a mad desire to make war???????

I have said NOTHING about taking up arms for the purpose of waging war on this government regime. I believe that it is time to refuse our consent and to refuse to comply - which WILL engender a violent response from the power now ruling us. You can do the math from there.

Obviously you do not believe tyranny is to be resisted or that liberty is worth fighting for outside of casting a vote. So your fate is sealed. Enjoy.

But then you must explain, if you're intellectually honest, why you're opposed to trying to find a reasonable and peaceful way to good government.

Are you willfully ignorant of human nature and history? I have already told you REPEATEDLY: you cannot be reasonable with the unreasonable. You cannot be civil with the uncivil and you cannot coexist with those who seek your subjugation and elimination.

Somehow, you think you can, and that resisting tyrants is a greater evil than submitting to them. Neville Chamberlain showed the world how your mindset when applied works - so I will repeat for you what Churchill remarked to Chamberlain: "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You will chose dishonor and you will have war.”

Continue to deceive yourself that voting for more Amendments to a document made irrelevant will restrain a mob and their tyrannical rulers if that makes you feel better and more moral than me.

We are past the point of offering Olive Branch Petitions to a tyranny.

Lick their palms if you must, and may posterity forget you were ever our countryman.

227 posted on 06/26/2015 12:16:53 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Article V is the means for the several states "to declare the causes which impel them," if only for "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind" for whatever may follow.

-PJ

232 posted on 06/26/2015 8:51:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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