Posted on 06/24/2015 8:54:28 AM PDT by don-o
Nuclear power plant technicians, senior military officers, FBI contractors and an employee of “a highly-secretive Department of Defense agency” with a Top Secret clearance. Those are just a few of the more than 100 people with sensitive military and government connections that law enforcement is tracking because they are linked to “outlaw motorcycle gangs.”
A year before the deadly Texas shootout that killed nine people on May 17, a lengthy report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives detailed the involvement of U.S. military personnel and government employees in outlaw motorcycle gangs, or OMGs. A copy of the report was obtained by The Intercept.
The report lays out, in almost obsessive detail, the extent to which OMG members are represented in nearly every part of the military, and in federal and local government, from police and fire departments to state utility agencies. Specific examples from the report include dozens of Defense Department contractors with Secret or Top Secret clearances; multiple FBI contractors; radiological technicians with security clearances; U.S. Department of Homeland Security employees; Army, Navy and Air Force active-duty personnel, including
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Exactly and maybe that is why those that excuse OMG’s can not see, their eyes are burned.
Just alerting newcomers to the Waco discussion of false and scurrilous accusations that a few trolls have been busy with.
If there are “criminal OMG sympathizers” here, they should be zotted.
Jim, if you consider me to be a “criminal OMG sympathizer” please zot me now.
The report has nothing to do with the dust up in Waco
That is true. But, don't you think that it sheds some light on what is going on in BATF? Especially in relation to the border?
I am trying to run down some reports that I saw in surfing, but did not save, about some of the Cossacks doing their own border patrol (on private property), near the border. I wonder if THAT is getting them sideways with Bandidos?
You could use a few commas and periods. Will make reading your posts easier. Am saying that some government employees like to ride Harleys. Some of these eventually join motorcycle groups. These types of people can tend to enjoy joining cultures that are slightly rebel in nature. They tend to also be first to recognize tyrannical over reach from the government. So that makes them targets. Why else would they be held for so long without charges ?
Interesting to note that they actually catch criminals and punish them severely.
Brevity is the soul of wit. Obfuscation is the soul of spit.
My overall impression is that the BATF has too much time on their hands and are too well funded. This report largely fits into the LE gossip. I would think that this issue would belong to the FBI and local LE, ATF needs to get back into their own foxhole.
I’d also like to see more convictions and less collections of blotter reports
That is “burning man” size straw man, there. No doubt, you are fully capable of knocking him down.
If it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck...... Its easy to see through your posts that you have an irrational sympathy for the bike gangers themselves. I do not want you zotted and hope no one else does.
Discuss the facts ‘you infer’ are not factual. Don’t hit from behind like “little brother” then run hide behind Dad for protection.
I as well as others have shown you facts in the form of articles and WPD statements as well as personal statements by bike gang families. You and your OBG sympathizing defenders ignore them all as if you were in a vacuum.
Outlaw Bike Gangs are scourge on America and on the public’s view of many peaceable law abiding motorcycle riders. As long as I am allowed, I will counter as many false facts and posts sympathetic to criminal bike gangs as possible!
Thankfully the hoard of damn Outlaw Bike Gang threads are winding down, Its time to quit giving FR a blackeye with your false impression FR is sympathetic to criminal bike gangs. Find another more appropriate topic on Free Republic.
What? We have us an affirmative action English teacher critiquing here while subbing as an OBG sympathizer?
It was intended as one sentence.
Now, what about terroristic criminal bike gangers do you find so enticing? Curious punctuators want to know.
If I have an “irrational sympathy” for anything, it is for the Constitution.
And I have a deep resentment for those who think it to be a trifling thing.
Save your sermons. You’re not good at that either.
Then state where you see the Constitution abridged with consideration to the shoot-out at Twin Peaks. I’ll be happy to agree or state where I see you incorrect.
Keep acting like some smitten schoolgirl on these criminal gangs and I’ll stay right in your face.
Make you a deal, quit with the cryptic inferences and debate some point I made or question I asked in post 18, to which you seem to disagree, and I’ll answer in the same manner.
I am cynical of what happened in Waco because of a few things:
1. The police initially said they were on scene before the shooting started.
2. Now the media is saying the police arrived AFTER the shooting started. The police are silent on that.
3. Due to the mass arrests there’s absolutely no cell phone video of the shootings or the immediate aftermath. This leads me to consider that the purpose of the mass arrest was to suppress cell phone video. If the bikers get their cell phones back after they get released we’ll see if I’m right. It won’t surprise me if they never get their phones back.
4. When the police are even just arguably right about something they go with a full court press on media. When they screw up bad enough they go silent. In this case the police went silent. To me that speaks for itself.
5. There are reports that the police infiltrated the meeting and some of the undercover police were caught or at least exposed as claiming colors they didn’t have a right to wear. Meaning the incident was possibly instigated by the police, thus the silence.
6. 170+ people arrested for nine killings? C’mon. That’s unbelievable. Since when is it SOP to ‘round up the usual suspects’? It just smells.
So forgive me if my BS detector is ringing with this one but it is.
Something else very curious is the number of people that were arrested and bail set at a million dollars, the then got it reduced to 25K as soon as they got a lawyer and a bail reduction hearing.
Nope. You have to ask nice.
You really should be embarrassed to have to ask.
“I wonder if THAT is getting them sideways with Bandidos?”
Hmmm, yes I saw that too; would not be surprised either.
Among other reasons postulated of course . . . the Texas bottom rocker, the Cossack’s allegedly associating with Bandido rival HAs, etc.
The border operations seem to strike most closely to the heart of the Bandido criminal operations, hence, no opposition can (in their logic) be tolerated.
No deal. I’ve read many of your posts, and it is clear you do not discuss (at least this issue) in good faith. Your posts stand on their own merit, as do mine. There is no need for us to interact, or to argue.
You pinged me big boy.
Now, I really don’t expect you or any other of the OBG apologists to stand and debate ANYTHING. You can not, facts and the truth about bike gangs are not on your side.
It is SOP for you guys to post some personal attack to a poster who calls you out on your criminal gang defending false claim, then you run hide when confronted with the pesky real FACTS.
Like all bullies, once confronting a victim who stands up against your personal attacking, you shrink away. Bye Bye, don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out.
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