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To: Timber Rattler

The controversy was over the TPP Bill. Cruz came out against TPA based on what has been disclosed on the two other bills that are secret. That is not what he and Sessions has disagreed on.

I don’t know if it will matter, since the TPA Bill passed the first time by a wide margin and Cruz’s vote didn’t make much difference.


77 posted on 06/23/2015 6:22:33 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

The issue is:
Toast Cruz supported SECRET bills to give Obama more power.

There is nothing more to say, except the bastard’s
supporters have been deceitful and untruthful.


81 posted on 06/23/2015 6:24:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: conservativejoy; xzins
The controversy was over the TPP Bill. Cruz came out against TPA based on what has been disclosed on the two other bills that are secret.

Baloney. Cruz knew what was in those trade bills. Or he is a liar. He said he read them. And since those bills were specifically mentioned in the TPA, he voted to fast track them.

No, Cruz changed his mind because the money stopped flowing. For the last week I have been getting desperate e-mails from Ted and Heidi begging me to contribute to their campaign. I have responded by saying that since he decided to vote for TPA, I will not be sending him another dime.

Instead of making excuses for Ted, maybe you should spend some time apologizing to all the freepers you belittled on the other threads. Maybe you should admit that YOU WERE WRONG.

I almost never see that on Free Republic.

Ted Cruz is going to do the right thing, but for the wrong reason. But maybe he has learned that his friends in the elitist GOP and their corporate allies are his enemies.

104 posted on 06/23/2015 6:48:04 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: conservativejoy; P-Marlowe

In the lead article for this thread, Cruz says himself that TPA was rotten, corrupted by deal-making in Congress.

What about being corrupt didn’t he know the first time around?

Because if he didn’t recognize it the first time around, he’s admitting he’s just a neophyte with Congress.


111 posted on 06/23/2015 6:54:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: conservativejoy

I agree that Cruz changed his mind here, once he realized he was being lied to and that things were added (and not added) to the TPA bill, that he does not agree with. I’m glad to see he is coming out and standing for what is right, now matter how the naysayers want to spin it and try and make it seem like he’s a flip-flopper. But the fact is, Ted Cruz didn’t change...the bill did.

Ted Cruz is a very intelligent, honest man with integrity. There has been nothing that I have seen in his career, or since he came on the scene as a Senator, to make me believe otherwise. He genuinely appears to be a stand up, trustworthy man, standing on principles and American values, doing what he he can to uphold our Constitution and be a good representative for the people. He’s a straight shooter and isn’t afraid to speak boldly and without political correctness, but does so with class.

That said, I wonder...if Cruz hadn’t made his stand on TPA, and explained why he was supporting it, as many times and as thoroughly as he did, meaning....if the discussion about TPA and TPP hadn’t been made so prevalent, would people really understand the difference between TPP, TPA and TIPA, etc? Would there be less informed people about what it is and what it entails and the difference between the bills?

Not saying that’s why he voted nay..., but I look at it as an opportunity, for people to get informed and educated, that might have been missed had he just voted nay.


272 posted on 06/23/2015 9:01:18 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: conservativejoy
I don’t know if it will matter, since the TPA Bill passed the first time by a wide margin and Cruz’s vote didn’t make much difference.

No. You are a LIAR.

TPA got cloture in the Senate by 1 vote. Ted Cruz's vote.

465 posted on 06/23/2015 12:45:21 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Scott Walker - a more conservative governor than Ronald Reagan)
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