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New study links global warming to Hurricane Sandy and other extreme weather events
Guardian UK ^ | June 22, 2015 | by John Abraham

Posted on 06/22/2015 9:00:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“human emissions”

I did that last night after dinner and my wife yelled at me.


21 posted on 06/22/2015 9:50:04 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There was no “hurrican Sandy” when it hit land....


22 posted on 06/22/2015 9:55:07 AM PDT by CSM
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23 posted on 06/22/2015 9:56:15 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: headstamp 2
We’ve gone from global warming to climate change and now “extreme weather” associated with climate change.

You left out global cooling, i.e. the coming ice age of the 1970s

24 posted on 06/22/2015 9:58:23 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The money quote, from the theme paragraph:

Yet there is a justifiably strong sense that some of these events are becoming more frequent

No scientist makes an assessment based on a "strong sense."

We have rigorous statistical methods to decide whether discrete events are, or are not, becoming more frequent. It is nonscientific -- indeed, antiscientific -- to rely on our "sense" of their intensity or frequency.

Either these events are more frequent under a genuine test of significance, or they are not. If they are, then habeas corpus. If they are not then STFU.

25 posted on 06/22/2015 9:59:41 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
New study still doesn't explain why there is no Smoking Hot Spot.

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No smoking hot spot

1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.


26 posted on 06/22/2015 10:01:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hurricane Sandy was a low grade hurricane, but wide. It traveled up the East coast, and came ashore in the most populated place in the USA, at a very high tide which caused a huge storm swell. It was soon met by two cold fronts fronts coming down from the north and west.

That is why it was so bad. It wasn’t glo-bull warming.


27 posted on 06/22/2015 10:03:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: PROCON

bttt


28 posted on 06/22/2015 10:26:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Will global warming make extreme weather more common or less common?

it's already yes

More severe or less severe?

yes
29 posted on 06/22/2015 10:56:05 AM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: CSM

I noticed that too. The media had to come up with a new name so they called it”super storm” Sandy.


30 posted on 06/22/2015 11:30:00 AM PDT by BBell (Identifies as a knight who says "NI"!!!!!! I want a shrubbery!!!!!!)
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We uns didn't have no hurrycanes 'for Al Gore.... Lysenko affair in the former Soviet Union is often cited as an example of politics trumping good science. It’s a good example, but it’s often used to imply that such a thing could only happen in a totalitarian culture, that is, when all-powerful elites can control the flow of information. But this misses the almost equally powerful conspiracy of agreement, in which interlocking assumptions and interests combine to give the appearance of objectivity where none exists. For propaganda purposes, this voluntary conspiracy is even more powerful than a literal conspiracy by a dictatorial power, precisely because it looks like people have come to their position by a fair and independent evaluation of the evidence.
31 posted on 06/22/2015 11:34:44 AM PDT by GOPJ
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We uns didn't have no hurrycanes 'for Al Gore....

Lysenko affair in the former Soviet Union is often cited as an example of politics trumping good science. It’s a good example, but it’s often used to imply that such a thing could only happen in a totalitarian culture, that is, when all-powerful elites can control the flow of information. But this misses the almost equally powerful conspiracy of agreement, in which interlocking assumptions and interests combine to give the appearance of objectivity where none exists. For propaganda purposes, this voluntary conspiracy is even more powerful than a literal conspiracy by a dictatorial power, precisely because it looks like people have come to their position by a fair and independent evaluation of the evidence.

32 posted on 06/22/2015 11:34:59 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More papal bull!


33 posted on 06/22/2015 1:06:40 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: dirtboy
A hurricane never hit that area of the country before?

NASA is busy redefining data measurements to erase reality. Now we are hearing revisionism coming from the other "scientific" communities.

In truth it is selective data altering to meet the expectation instead of scientific data review to evaluate reality. I'm guessing there are big bucks in creating a crisis that can be constantly redefined to maintain a sense of urgency and impending doom.

In President Eisenhower's farewell speech to the country, this is the part we always hear quoted, as a matter of fact we get hammered with it:

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex."

Here is part of that same speech we never hear:

"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. "

34 posted on 06/22/2015 1:10:34 PM PDT by pfflier
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...military-industrial complex...scientific-technological elite.

Yes and yes. However...

Ike could not possibly have foreseen the two problems we face today; the Democrat-controlled academic-media complex is destroying our society and China's military-industrial complex is gearing up to wipe us off the face of the earth.

And sadly, the US doesn't even have a military-industrial complex any more.

35 posted on 06/22/2015 7:16:23 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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