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$50 billion canal in Nicaragua could allow Chinese submarines to cross from the Atlantic to…
Daily Mail (UK) ^
| 13:15 EST, 19 June 2015
| James Dunn
Posted on 06/20/2015 9:27:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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$50 billion canal in Nicaragua could allow Chinese submarines to cross from the Atlantic to the Pacific undetectedBut Fareed Zakaria said dont fear the rise of the rest, so no worries.
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posted on
06/20/2015 9:27:08 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
on the assumption it could get past the SOSUS system that would be placed on both ends of the canal route that is
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posted on
06/20/2015 9:30:49 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: Olog-hai
To: MinorityRepublican
Article says 26 meters, which is 85¼ feet.
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posted on
06/20/2015 9:43:44 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Chode
Obama would put SOSUS there?
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posted on
06/20/2015 9:44:24 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
The U.S. Navy could but Obama probably won’t let them. It might appear too aggressive.
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posted on
06/20/2015 9:50:59 PM PDT
by
BBell
(Identifies as a knight who says "NI"!!!!!! I want a shrubbery!!!!!!)
To: Olog-hai
the suckhole won't be in office when/if it's finished... we can only hope a real American will be in office by then
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posted on
06/20/2015 9:55:45 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: Olog-hai
Article says 26 meters, which is 85¼ feet. Is that deep enough for a submarine to go through submerged? The article says: "undetected".
Piloting a submerged sub through a canal seems like it would be a remarkable feat.
To: Olog-hai
It would be easier to put a sub on a cargo ship and take it through that way.
If you knew that subs could cross through, you would watch both ends of the canal.
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posted on
06/20/2015 10:48:24 PM PDT
by
mountainbunny
(Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
To: Michael.SF.
This is ridicules, 85 foot deep? What no Locks? Me thinks these Chinese are either smoking some really good stuff or they figure we are.
As you say, it would be a fine feat to navigate such submerged only to find an unfriendly attack boat waiting at the outlet.
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posted on
06/20/2015 11:19:10 PM PDT
by
X-spurt
(CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
To: mountainbunny
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posted on
06/20/2015 11:45:39 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
I cannot think of a passageway for submarines more easily obstructed than a canal only 85 feet deep. We have technology today capable of detecting evidence of minerals by radar hundreds of feet under the ground and I cannot imagine that every movement in such a canal will be anything other than an open book.
While I deplore the loss of Panama Canal and I fear the intentions of the Chinese with respect to the Nicaraguan Canal, those fears are economic fears grounded in a fear of a mercantilist emerging superpower.
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posted on
06/20/2015 11:47:00 PM PDT
by
nathanbedford
("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
To: X-spurt
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06/20/2015 11:49:47 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: nathanbedford
The submarine thing is a red herring. That kind of a choke point would turn submarines into targets.
I see only economic benefits. If the Chinese want to spend their capital to compete with the Panama canal, it is just going to mean lower shipping costs for the entire world, and the US is going to be one of the greatest winners in the process.
To: Olog-hai
The movement of submarines is addressed in the Law of the Sea Treaty, which China has ratified.
The only nations that haven't ratified UNCLOS are Turkey, Syria, Israel, Iran, and the US.
To: Olog-hai
Just being covered by a few feet of water would not make them “undetected”.
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posted on
06/21/2015 4:26:13 AM PDT
by
Hugin
("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
To: Olog-hai
Obama would put SOSUS there?He would contract it out to Chinese companies....
I finally got my OPM notif that my data may have been included in the "Chinese hack" due to the Chinese contract to manage the data. Very careful to decline responsibility and they gave me a free 18 month credit/info monitoring deal with CSID.
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posted on
06/21/2015 4:31:31 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: Michael.SF.
Is that deep enough for a submarine to go through submerged? The article says: "undetected". No. No rational submarine commander will submerge without having several hundred feet of water under his keel.
To: Olog-hai
Obama would put SOSUS there? Most if not all of SOSUS was moth-balled back in the 1990's.
To: Olog-hai
This sounds like BS to me.
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posted on
06/21/2015 4:42:38 AM PDT
by
McGruff
(It's gonna get ugly round here.)
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