Posted on 06/17/2015 8:39:34 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
TPA is "Fast Track."
Hubby and I are disappointed to see that Ed Meese is supporting this trade bill nonsense. Not now, not with the botched roll-out they’ve produced, thus far, and NOT for 0blame-a.
If it’s so non-threatening and great, then let’s wait til we have a Republican President in and, hopefully, McConnell & Bonehead - the two Corporatists - out. Those two are as UN-trusted as 0bie.
NOTHING more to this Lyin’ King in Chief.
As others have pointed out, it lowers the bar to passage.
Right and I tend to agree with you...
However, the initial outrage came from a Leftist to create discord in the GOP.
I would say what you said, but about Pelosi...
Are you siding with the Unions?
In the last sentence, you said it all...this is moot if the GOP did it’s job. It won’t.
Great short list of The Ministry of Truth’s DoubleSpeak.
That's the intended outcome and primary reason I oppose FTA.
By the way, with TPA, the Congress will be updated about the agreement and can give input to any trade agreement during the negotiation period.
I would not count on this. You know obama has a history of bending rules when it suits him. Regardless of what is in the trade agreements if they are fast tracked they will be passed . Arguing that FTA will allow us to see them is pointless because by that point it will be too late.
As others have pointed out, it lowers the bar to passage.
Even worse, IMO. TPA guarantees TPP passage with 2/3 of Senate not up for reelection for 3 1/2 years or more. They will happily sell out main street for K Street cash under the assumption that this little brouhaha will be forgotten by the time they are up for reelection.
-PJ
>>People oppose it because it sucks for America and Americans<<
I oppose it on the basis of the lack transparency. This could be the deal of the century, but by not allowing the American people to read it in it’s entirety, it’s screams of abuse.
If you can’t bring it into the light, it must not pass.
Frankly I find it incomprehensible that any freeper would support legislation that Obama so desperately wants! Stunning really....
With TPA, the Congress will have a chance to oversee and give input during the negotiation period of trade agreements. So, they will be involved in the trade agreement already before the final vote.
So this must be why Obama wants so badly to have this passed. He desperately wants congressional oversight and the ability for congress to give input, and be fully involved, during the negotiation period....
thanks
I have tried to keep it straight
why would anyone want to give a POTUS esp, Obama extra authority?
How would this work in practice? Would each of the 535 have a seat at the table? How could anyone actually determine the US's position?
There's a reason the executive is given the authority to negotiate for the US, subject to the input and approval of congress.
Spot on!
Anything to do with our current WH occupant must be viewed with suspicion.
I agree, but with one major reservation. A modern day, anti-American pirate has managed to get himself elected as president. And the bottom line is that he probably wants to use his constitutional authority to negotiate treaties as a back door to unconstitutionally create new powers for himself outside the framework of the Constitution, powers that he likely wants to use to hurt the constitutional republic.
Note that my concerns about a president’s abuse of power to negotiate treaties are not based on paranoia but have been historically acknowledged by both Thomas Jefferson and the Supreme Court.
“In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise.” —Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.
“Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way.” — Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1812 .
And here’s a relevant Supreme Court case opinion excerpt.
“2. Insofar as Art. 2(11) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice provides for the military trial of civilian dependents accompanying the armed forces in foreign countries, it cannot be sustained as legislation which is “necessary and proper” to carry out obligations of the United States under international agreements made with those countries, since no agreement with a foreign nation can confer on Congress or any other branch of the Government power which is free from the restraints of the Constitution [emphasis added].” — Reid v. Covert, 1956 .
Also note that the Founding States had given the Senate the power to protect the states from corrupt presidents as evidenced by the Senate’s power to remove a House-impeached president from office (1.3.7). But as a consequence of the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, the corrupt Senate cannot be expected to do its job to protect the states from an activist president.
The 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and corrupt senators and a likewise corrupt president along with it.
Absolutely!
Check this article:
Leading Anti-’ObamaTrade’ Activist Is a Longtime Democrat Political Operative
By tailoring his disinformation to appeal to conservatives, the career Democrat operative is attempting to make the Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) and Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) toxic to Republicans.
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