Posted on 06/17/2015 8:39:34 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
Nobody especially cares whether it’s Constituional. People oppose it because it sucks for America and Americans, and is bound to be gamed by insiders like every other damned thing in this corrupt government.
People need to stop disguising corporate welfare and statism as free trade.
If it’s such a wonderful deal, why hasn’t it been published ?
Nancy get's her mind right, Rinos & Dems pass TPP.
Conservatives vote no on TPP and claim it's passage it not their fault.
Apart from “all previous presidents never promoted trade agreements” fallacy, why does this president need this special authority then? Can’t he do more with less?
Esp. these past 10 - 15 years, the name of any bill is exactly opposite of what it was intent to do.
Affordable Care, Community Restoration, Economic Stimulus, etc. etc. ....
Agreements need to be made available to review.
That does not mean that amendments can be made - but it does mean that whatever is negotiated in the agreement will be public before a vote. It would also have the effect of making sure that no amendments would be desired to the extent that the agreement would be denied.
We do not like the secrecy.
Perhaps the author is unaware of this case:
WTO Rules Against Country of Origin Meat Leveling in U.S.
Or maybe he's just a liar.
“It is extremely difficult for any U.S. President to negotiate significant trade deals if he cannot assure other nations that Congress will refrain from adding numerous amendments and conditions that must then be taken back to the negotiating table. Congress has not granted TPA for seven years—which is one reason why the United States is a party to only three of 131 trade and investment agreements currently in force worldwide.”
Given our current half-breed president, I’d say not giving him “trade authority” is a good thing!
The fear is that “sovereignty”, today, under this president, now means only HIM.
What was true yesterday is NOT true today. We have evidence!
So, the defenders use the abused Constitution, the SCOTUS, and even George Washington, and now Ed Meese for the lipstick, when none of the above applies today, under this president, this Congress, this SCOTUS, this Asian “pivot”.
Including the damn bad timing.
“Or maybe he’s just a liar. “
I’ll take “LIAR” for $1,000 Wolfie!
Thanks for this
I will read it later when I have time
Maybe they cover this but why is this something that has to be voted on for each trade deal?
I assume it was granted to other Presidents for other deals
Why does it have to come up again?
Here is the text of TPA:
Side-by-side Comparison of the 2002, 2014 and 2015 TPA Bills
Leading Anti-’ObamaTrade’ Activist Is a Longtime Democrat Political Operative
If TPA was constitutional Obama would be trying to circumvent it.
I’ve had enough of reading these long winded talking-point essays designed to placate conservatives. Let me read the treaty (and it most certainly is a treaty) whose passage TPA will make inevitable, or STFU.
Climate change regulations will come in via this giant door, especially because of the up or down votes. While TPA restricts Congress from amendments, it doesn’t stop the Exec from cramming whatever it wants into the package.
Therefore, if Congress wants to strip something out by amendment, TPA makes it impossible.
TPA proves the time has come to eliminate the ruling class and reboot.
The thing about the Constitution is that is allows people to do badly ill-advised things if they want to. In this particular instance it is a case of our elected officials inflicting ill-advised things on an unwilling constituency.
A red hearing. Wrong argument. It is not a matter of constitutional right or wrong. It’s a matter of the U.S. Congress sherking it’s duty and giving a president (regardless of party) total control over what is negotiated, then only having the ability to approve or disapprove without any amendments.
The old saying, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem!
The progressives wouldn’t even allow us to withdraw from the SALT treaties, after the USSR collapsed and ceased to exist. No one CARES if it ever benefits US! It will NEVER go away.
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