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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"“Now, I have not voted on TPP, and I haven’t decided if I will support it or not, because the negotiation isn’t complete, and I’m going to wait and review and see what the agreement is first before assessing if it would be beneficial or harmful.” "

So it is meant to pass it first and then fill in all the blank spaces later?

11 posted on 06/12/2015 4:46:50 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner
Since TPA passed, TPP can be passed with a simple majority, no amendments allowed, straight up or down vote, rather than requiring a two-thirds majority because TPP is a trade agreement.

Now, Cruz can have his cake and eat it, too. He can refuse to vote for TPP knowing full well it will pass anyway and pretend voting for TPA had nothing to do with the fact that TPP is passed.

18 posted on 06/12/2015 4:54:25 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Karl Spooner
“The vote that matters is the vote tomorrow on cloture TPA,” Cruz said. “Any senator who votes yes on cloture TPA tomorrow is voting to give Harry Reid OBAMA the power to fully fund Obamacare SELL OUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I will vote no on cloture tomorrow.VOTED YES ON TPA. That vote is the fight.”
21 posted on 06/12/2015 4:58:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Karl Spooner

Yes and no.

TPP is the actual trade agreement. TPA (Fast Track) is just the streamlined process that TPP would be passed under.

TPP will be made public for review and debate prior to being voted on. However TPA makes it MUCH easier to pass, specifically by removing the ability of Senators to filibuster against it and restricting the vote to a simple up or down majority


26 posted on 06/12/2015 5:06:14 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Karl Spooner

I see many here acting - and posting - irrational things. Freezers are NOT listening to Cruz’ interviews at all, but having knee-jerk reaction based on what agitators here are posting.

If we are that easily swayed and unable to look at facts - no wonder other citizens are taken in by liberals’ irrational and emotional tirades.

Nobody is saying pass the bill without reading it. There will be 60 days for EVERYONE to read it before a vote. Cruz is saying release it now.


82 posted on 06/13/2015 7:41:41 AM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Karl Spooner

wow, your reading comprehension is absurd....that’s the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you thought he meant, and you don’t have any idea the difference between TPP and TPA.


86 posted on 06/13/2015 1:00:35 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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