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To: Lazamataz

Is this a fact???


4 posted on 06/12/2015 10:54:47 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Old Sarge

1) If the bill failing is true, I am surprised. When the vote was scheduled I assumed it would be an establishment win. They don’t schedule votes without knowing in advance the outcome.

2) If the bill failing is true, it is temporary. The Senate did the same thing, with the same players, too. Democrats rejected this deal in the Senate, too, and Obama, using every tool from NSA records to offers of wealth, changed their minds. Same thing applies here.


59 posted on 06/12/2015 11:14:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We're 15% less evil than the Democrats!!!")
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To: Old Sarge; P-Marlowe

It appears it has failed. Since TPA hasn’t specifically been voted on, it can be snuck under the gun. See below about the order of voting planned in the House.

From yesterday’s article:

· Question 1 - TAA. If this vote fails, no further action will be taken on the remaining trade motions. If this vote passes, the House will proceed to:

· Question 2 - TPA. If this vote fails, no further action will be taken on the remaining trade motion. If this vote passes, the House will proceed to:

· Question 3 - Motion to concur on the customs bill with a House amendment


76 posted on 06/12/2015 11:21:52 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Old Sarge

Lazmataz is right.

The House did undermine the whole Fast Track procedure and the big Obama wet dream trade package in their vote today.

They did so because anti-commerce Dems were against it and enough Republicans turned against Boehner.

What they did was vote to strip out a key provision of the Fast Track legislation, which was supposed to fund union employees and everybody else who ended up “displaced” from their jobs by the trade agreement. It also gives Obama certain powers in negotiating that he wouldn’t otherwise have.

Without this “displacement” wording the Fast Track will not proceed.

BUT...after the vote, which effectively undermined the whole Fast Track and Pacific Trade Agreement, the REPUBLICANS in the House quickly voted to send the legislation back to the Senate, which means the Senate can fool with it and then send it back to the House...in other words do the whole damn thing over again.

Fast Track and the Pacific Trade agreement are not dead.

As Laz says: If the bill failing...is temporary.


83 posted on 06/12/2015 11:24:20 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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