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To: Norm Lenhart

If anything, this whole mess makes me like Cruz more, not less. And here’s why:

I might not like this agreement, but the fact that Cruz voted for something he believed in instead of a party line vote means that he’s not pandering to us, and that when he says something, he believes it. I want someone who will lead, not someone who will only do something if the polls say so.

Second, from the little I saw of this bill, I really don’t see anything unconstitutional about it. Perhaps I’ll need to sing a Mea Culpa afterwards if someone points things out to me, but bad legislation doesn’t equal tyranny.

It’s also amazing how many names I’m seeing posting lately that I haven’t seen since... 2012. Hmmmm. Makes me wonder.


361 posted on 06/12/2015 7:16:48 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Most of Cruz’s detractors hate him for that reason. They arent mad at him for the bill. They are mad because his ‘purist’ idea of sticking to his guns is the polar opposite of their asinine “Lesser evil” meme. If he sticks to his guns and retains support, their job convincing the world that capitulation is the path to success gets that much harder.

Remember: These are people that voted Romney and over 2 years later, still make excuses about it, oblivious to the fact that the RINOs they demanded are the very people LITERALLY getting thumbs up from Barry on this fiasco.


365 posted on 06/12/2015 8:58:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Luircin
... but the fact that Cruz voted for something he believed in instead of a party line vote means that he’s not pandering to us

Recall that Cruz made exactly the OPPOSITE argument when it came to funding ObamaCare, saying:

“The vote that matters is the vote tomorrow on cloture ” Cruz said. “Any senator who votes yes on cloture tomorrow is voting to give Harry Reid the power to fully fund Obamacare. I will vote no on cloture tomorrow. That vote is the fight.”

TPA is the cloture vote on TPP/ObamaTrade. He was in favor of the ability to filibuster ObamaCare, is opposed to the ability to filibuster TPP. Not sure how that's evidence that Cruz votes based on what he "believe(s) in"

So, sure, he's not pandering to US. Question is, who is he pandering to?
377 posted on 06/14/2015 7:44:34 PM PDT by tanknetter
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