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Department Of Justice Uses Grand Jury Subpoena To Identify Anonymous Commenters ...
Popehat.com ^ | 6/8/2015 | Ken White

Posted on 06/08/2015 4:32:55 PM PDT by Skepolitic

The United States Department of Justice is using federal grand jury subpoenas to identify anonymous commenters engaged in typical internet bluster and hyperbole in connection with the Silk Road prosecution. DOJ is targeting Reason.com, a leading libertarian website whose clever writing is eclipsed only by the blowhard stupidity of its commenting peanut gallery.

Why are the government using its vast power to identify these obnoxious asshats, and not the other tens of thousands who plague the internet?

Because these twerps mouthed off about a judge.

Last week, a source provided me with a federal grand jury subpoena. The subpoena1, issued by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, is directed to Reason.com in Washington, D.C.. The subpoena commands Reason to provide the grand jury "any and all identifying information"2 Reason has about participants in what the subpoena calls a "chat."

The "chat" in question is a comment thread on Nick Gillespie's May 31, 2015 article about Ross "Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht's plea for leniency to the judge who would sentence him in the Silk Road prosecution. That plea, we know now, failed, as Ulbricht received a life sentence, with no possibility of parole.

Several commenters on the post found the sentence unjust, and vented their feelings in a rough manner. The grand jury subpoena specifies their comments and demands that Reason.com produce any identifying information on them.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: obamssfault; policestate; reason; silkroad; tyranny
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The prosecutor is hanging the threat of a 20-year prison sentence on anybody who has the temerity to express the hope that there's a special place in hell reserved for the federal judge who would sentence Ulbricht to life.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Ulbricht sentence, this should be disturbing.

I've certainly read FR comments about federal officials that were just as rough as those on the Reason website. The fact that neither even comes close to being a genuine threat evidently will no longer stop the Feds from harassing and potentially prosecuting those who would exercise the freedom to engage in hyperbolic rough speech.

The article has links to the subpeona and other relevant information.

1 posted on 06/08/2015 4:32:55 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic

I’m not hard to find on twitter. I’m the one who calls Nancy Pelosi a syphilitic toad rectum.


2 posted on 06/08/2015 4:34:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Skepolitic

More and more tyrannical every day.


3 posted on 06/08/2015 4:35:48 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Skepolitic

Could FR be next with a similar Grand Jury Subpoena?


4 posted on 06/08/2015 4:36:58 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

Hope JimRob tells them to pound sand and has the system rigged to zero-write the drives and then pass them through a shredder.


5 posted on 06/08/2015 4:38:58 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Skepolitic

The Founders would have played felony poker with the persecutor...


6 posted on 06/08/2015 4:39:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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I’m the one who calls Nancy Pelosi a syphilitic toad rectum.

That's outrageous! You owe syphilitic toad rectums everywhere an apology.

7 posted on 06/08/2015 4:44:55 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Skepolitic

Their goal is to silence dissent. They even want to make it a crime if you disagree with them.


8 posted on 06/08/2015 4:45:05 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: Skepolitic

Remember Free Dominion.

One radical Leftist got FR’s sister site to shut down permanently.

That was just one activist in a foreign court. Imagine now in this country, someone with the power of a nation-state at their disposal.


9 posted on 06/08/2015 4:47:16 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Crazieman
Reason should use the "Lois Lerner defense." Hey, it worked for the IRS. The hard drive is broken, Koskinen comitted perjury, no one cared.
10 posted on 06/08/2015 4:48:06 PM PDT by Fungi
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The prosecutor is hanging the threat of a 20-year prison sentence on anybody who has the temerity to express the hope that there's a special place in hell reserved for the federal judge who would sentence Ulbricht to life.

Whatever happened to the separation of church and state?

11 posted on 06/08/2015 4:50:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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12 posted on 06/08/2015 4:51:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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I’m not hard to find on twitter. I’m the one who calls Nancy Pelosi a syphilitic toad rectum.

Curious, Barney Frank may start following your tweets.

13 posted on 06/08/2015 4:51:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: Skepolitic

Someone makes a threat to kill someone, and they shouldn’t be surprised if the authorities try to determine if the threat is credible or if it is just a pasty faced internet cowboy hiding in his mother’s basement spouting off from behind an anonymous screen name.

Based on the threats posted at your link, the subpoenas appear to be justified.


14 posted on 06/08/2015 4:52:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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to express the hope that there's a special place in hell reserved for the federal judge who would sentence Ulbricht to life.

Show a bit of integrity here. The four before the fifth one that you referenced go a good bit beyond that.

15 posted on 06/08/2015 4:55:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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No.

http://popehat.com/2015/06/08/department-of-justice-uses-grand-jury-subpoena-to-identify-anonymous-commenters-on-a-silk-road-post-at-reason-com/

“True Threats” are those threats that are outside the protection of the First Amendment; they are not mere political hyperbole or bluster. For instance, in 1967, when Mr. Watts said that if he were drafted the first man he’d want in his rifle sights was President Lyndon B. Johnson, that wasn’t a true threat: it was conditional political hyperbole. In other words, it was mere angry bluster of the sort no reasonable person would take to be a serious threat.3

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/394/705/case.html

Watts v. United States
394 U.S. 705

Petitioner’s remark during political debate at small public gathering that, if inducted into Army (which he vowed would never occur) and made to carry a rifle “the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.,” held to be crude political hyperbole which, in light of its context and conditional nature, did not constitute a knowing and willful threat against the President within the coverage of 18 U.S.C. § 871(a).

Certiorari granted; 131 U.S.App.D.C. 125, 402 F.2d 676, reversed and remanded.


16 posted on 06/08/2015 5:02:06 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Skepolitic

I’m interested in seeing how these millennial libertarians respond. Do they have the courage of their convictions, or do they fall in line and do as they are told?


17 posted on 06/08/2015 5:09:05 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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Way back we had a Freeper get a visit from the Secret Service for a foolish remark.

Can’t make threats.


18 posted on 06/08/2015 5:09:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Define “threat.”


19 posted on 06/08/2015 5:11:03 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Old Sarge

We’ll have to start using smoke signals. No, I’m not kidding.


20 posted on 06/08/2015 5:12:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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