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Owner of house blown apart by SWAT says: 'This is an abomination. This is an atrocity'
The Denver Channel ^ | Phil Tenser, Anne Trujillo, Alan Stedman

Posted on 06/05/2015 8:02:12 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit

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To: Tamzee

I have no problem with them firing cyanide gas canisters inside.

Blowing walls off the house, damaging neighbors houses, shattering car windshields - whole different story.


21 posted on 06/05/2015 8:32:31 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Lurker

The current anti-cop sentiment is creating a climate where crooks and wackos are being let off the hook. I’m not buying it. Sure, the cops overreacted, but this was an armed standoff. I’m sure the city will eventually offer the homeowner a nice settlement for what his insurance doesn’t cover.

It’s the guy who barricaded himself in the house and began shooting that started the whole thing in the first place.


22 posted on 06/05/2015 8:36:03 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

“There was an engagement ring in there that would have been John’s great-great grandmother’s. It survived two World Wars, OK, but it didn’t survive the American police paramilitary operation.”

Color me somewhat skeptical. A ring is not going to be destroyed, normally, by this type of damage. I speak as someone who spent decades cleaning up damaged buildings.


23 posted on 06/05/2015 8:39:04 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: JennysCool

“Sure, the cops overreacted, “

Way too much of that going on these days for my taste. Most cops I know can barely be considered competent with a handgun, let alone explosive devices.

May they never overreact in your neighborhood.

L


24 posted on 06/05/2015 8:39:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Pretty much, I’ve partied with a cop, and like he said about the Dallas cops and his speeding around drunk when I asked him to slow down because my wife was with us (pointing out that he was drunk and driving recklessly), “I’ll just show them my Houston badge”.


25 posted on 06/05/2015 8:40:03 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Sherman Logan

Guy seems like a character... they picked the wrong homeowner.


26 posted on 06/05/2015 8:42:10 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: null and void

Ping!


27 posted on 06/05/2015 8:43:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://www.hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook ID: Hopalong Ginsberg)
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To: JennysCool
It’s the guy who barricaded himself in the house and began shooting that started the whole thing in the first place.

Who started it is not the issue.

It's what followed.

29 posted on 06/05/2015 8:44:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lurker

If there’s an armed standoff in my neighborhood, I hope the cops are there. Sure, they’re human and they make mistakes, but 80-90 percent of the time it’s good to have them around when something like this goes down. It’s only when it goes bad that it gets reported in the MSM, which is obviously cheering for Obama to get that “national police force” he so obviously wants.


30 posted on 06/05/2015 8:47:27 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: ansel12
This is similar to the escalation that they do when just talking to people and the citizen ends up dead or hospitalized for no real reason. There just doesn’t seem to be any sense of scale with today’s police, it is full war, all the time.

WHY are you buying the leftist crap? Obama and his people want to portray local police departments as inept or malevolent so they can get that "federal police force" Obama talked about so lovingly in the campaign into place. If FReepers are buying the media's obvious assistance in this effort, I truly do fear for the future of this free republic.

Stop buying the propaganda that takes an isolated local incident somewhere and turns it into a national furor. You're smarter than that.

31 posted on 06/05/2015 8:56:21 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

What went wrong here?

It doesn’t look like some freak accident happened to turn them doing their job sanely and well, into a disaster. It looks like they were just doing just what they wanted to do.

The disaster was, that their system is insane, they don’t care, because they don’t have to care, the city unions are in charge.


32 posted on 06/05/2015 8:58:09 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ican'tbelieveit

If memory serves, Greenwood Village is the smallest “city” in the Denver metropolitan area. I doubt they have 35 cops on dept. I fined interesting they even have a SWAT Team.


33 posted on 06/05/2015 8:58:44 PM PDT by Tupelo (I fell more like Phillip Nolan every day.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
"...but it didn’t survive the American police paramilitary operation."

That's incorrect. The proper description is pseudo-military.


34 posted on 06/05/2015 9:02:11 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: ansel12
There just doesn’t seem to be any sense of scale with today’s police, it is full war, all the time.

Well stated. It used to be that police were trained to deescalate tensions in any situation, and everyone calmed down a bit as soon as the police arrived. Now, the police arrive shouting and cursing like regular thugs and provoke further violence by their behavior. Many pretend as if they are military and we citizens are merely "civilians" to be ordered around. Today's militarized police are alienating themselves from the society they have sworn to protect and serve, and that does not bode well for the future.

What is being taught to these guys, how are they keeping themselves pumped up and wired all the time?

Steroids bulk up the body but also puff up the mind.

35 posted on 06/05/2015 9:03:11 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Sherman Logan
A Wal-Mart shoplifter who was shooting at cops.

Maybe I missed the /s tag.

Shirley you are not excusing blowing this guy's house apart in this manner?

36 posted on 06/05/2015 9:04:15 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: ansel12
Just don't buy the propaganda. Obama said he wanted a national police force as well-equipped as the military. The media therefore blows up local stories (poor ol' Freddy, "Gentle Giant" Michael Brown, etc.) as indicators that, well, "Darn it, these local police departments are just too darn violent and racist and ... fill in the blank ... So we're just going to have to get our National Police Force in place to make things right and everything will be rainbows and unicorns."

As Rush likes to say, don't doubt me.

37 posted on 06/05/2015 9:07:13 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Some criminals wearing uniforms need to be locked up in prison. And then throw the keys away. It’s getting harder and harder to respect police - the good ones need to clean house ASAP!


38 posted on 06/05/2015 9:08:41 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.")
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To: ican'tbelieveit

“This is an abomination. This is an atrocity”.

If only SWAT officers were allowed to marry. No, wait, wrong abomination...


39 posted on 06/05/2015 9:10:27 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: Tamzee; null and void
As far as I am concerned, they should have just given him one warning and then shot cyanide gas cannisters inside.

Well hell, why not a persistent nerve agent? I mean, if you are going to start using lethal chemical agents loose on civilians in populated areas, why not go all the way?

40 posted on 06/05/2015 9:10:57 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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