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Coakley is Wrong to Champion 'Chip and PIN' Fits-All-Solution
Townhall.com ^ | May 26, 2015 | Neil McCabe

Posted on 05/26/2015 5:51:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/26/2015 5:51:20 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Obama thinks CHIP and PIN are just golf terms.


2 posted on 05/26/2015 5:59:32 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Today's Civil Rights movement: Black Lives Matter--unless they are cops.)
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To: Kaslin

This is an issue that can definitely be served by free market choices - ( I know, an alien concept to the world’s liberals)

You want card with a chip, apply to a company that offers them.

I did


3 posted on 05/26/2015 6:04:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Kaslin

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


4 posted on 05/26/2015 6:09:57 AM PDT by null and void (In a world where lies and propaganda masquerade freely as truth, communication is everything.)
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To: Kaslin
Nearly every credit and debit card issued in the US will have a chip by the end of this year.

Merchants will be required to have a point-of-sale terminal that can read the chip by October. If they don't, they will assume responsibility for any fraudulent use of a card that has a chip.

However, it will be almost universally "chip and SIGNATURE" for credit cards. Unlike other countries that use a PIN, it would require a large change in how some merchants process credit cards -- like restaurants.

I think we will eventually go to PINs in the US. But, it won't happen this year.

5 posted on 05/26/2015 6:15:10 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderators)
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Chip-and-PIN is called contactless because the cashier no longer inspects a card or signature at the point-of-sale.

No, "contactless" means that the card isn't inserted into, or swiped on the reader.

Contactless cards use NFC (near field communication). You can find a sideways WiFi symbol on the back of cards that support it. It's called "tap to pay" in other countries.

Apple Pay and Google Wallet work by emulating a contactless card.

6 posted on 05/26/2015 6:20:50 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderators)
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To: silverleaf

My free market choice is cash whenever possible.


7 posted on 05/26/2015 6:30:43 AM PDT by grania
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To: justlurking
It is also another chance for credit card companies to update their T&C.

Part of the T&C will force somebody other than the credit card company or the issuing bank to be responsible for losses.

All approved by Congress at some point.

Banks win, consumers and merchants lose.

8 posted on 05/26/2015 6:38:59 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: grania

Bump! Cash is king. I use a debit card for online purchases but that’s it. Local purchases gets paid by cash.


9 posted on 05/26/2015 6:41:21 AM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Government is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V)
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To: Kaslin

ping


10 posted on 05/26/2015 6:57:51 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Kaslin

Last year I was issued a new credit card that the chip and the old strip. In some places like Wally World I had to slide in the slot that reads chips. Other places with older machines I slid the conventional way to read the strip.

About six months later they cancelled that card and sent me a replacement with NO CHIP! I figure this means the chip had some drawbacks they way they had implemented it.


11 posted on 05/26/2015 7:04:44 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Give everyone a one time pass code reader. You have your debit or credit card pin, then you enter a pin that is generated off your FOB. It is one time only so the only fraud that can happen is your FOB is stolen and you are forced to give up your secret pin.


12 posted on 05/26/2015 7:19:30 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liawatha, because we need to beat a real commie, not a criminal posing as one.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Ha ha.


13 posted on 05/26/2015 7:24:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Give everyone a one time pass code reader.

Could you make this cheap and disposable? So the CC issuer is going to mail you one of these?

14 posted on 05/26/2015 7:25:27 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

“Could you make this cheap and disposable? So the CC issuer is going to mail you one of these?”

The biggest cost will come from the back end infrastructure being implemented. The readers themselves are pretty cheap.


15 posted on 05/26/2015 8:06:49 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liawatha, because we need to beat a real commie, not a criminal posing as one.)
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To: justlurking

I don’t understand why they can’t go to a biometric that analyzes the signature itself, including the cadence with which it is written.


16 posted on 05/26/2015 8:56:28 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Give everyone a one time pass code reader. You have your debit or credit card pin, then you enter a pin that is generated off your FOB. It is one time only so the only fraud that can happen is your FOB is stolen and you are forced to give up your secret pin.

There are credit cards that have an LCD screen with a pseudo-random code generator embedded:

http://newsroom.mastercard.com/press-releases/mastercard-introduces-next-generation-display-card-technology-a-first-for-singapore/

But, they aren't being deployed in the US.

17 posted on 05/26/2015 9:37:45 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderators)
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I don’t understand why they can’t go to a biometric that analyzes the signature itself, including the cadence with which it is written.

It's not reliable. You would have people standing in line while someone tries to sign it in a way that will validate.

18 posted on 05/26/2015 9:38:47 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderators)
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To: justlurking
It's not reliable.

Depends upon the tolerances and what it is measuring.

19 posted on 05/26/2015 9:39:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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Depends upon the tolerances and what it is measuring.

The devices that could be used for this sort of thing suffer from all kinds of calibration problems. All you have to do is observe your captured signature on the electronic pads that are already in use.

The tolerances would have to be so wide that it would be effectively useless for verification.

20 posted on 05/26/2015 10:17:41 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderators)
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