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Can Iraq be saved?
Yahoo News ^ | 18 May 2015 | Sarah B. Boxer

Posted on 05/18/2015 5:34:40 PM PDT by mandaladon

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To: SkyDancer
I agree with you.... but I was fuming at the time we were losing them. I never bought the "planting democracy" idea as a way to tame the middle east. We could have bombed them into the dark ages in the days after 9-11. Instead we tried to establish democracy there, and that plan was never good.

Obammy should have not cut and run. No doubt. There is nothing there worth saving at this point. Suni, Kurd, Shiite? They're all the same to me. None would ever be a true ally.

21 posted on 05/18/2015 6:08:08 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: mcshot

McJuan and Linda will claim “mission accomplished”....


22 posted on 05/18/2015 6:12:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jeff Chandler

More islamist by the moment.


23 posted on 05/18/2015 7:10:52 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: kjam22

they have never known anything remotely resembling freedom, and barring a miracle. which i wont count out just yet..they cant know that there is a light at the end of the ugly tunnel that they’re stuck in.


24 posted on 05/18/2015 7:40:12 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: mandaladon
Yes. Next question.

I didn't say it would be easy....just that it can be done.
A better question is, what happens if Iraq is not saved?

25 posted on 05/18/2015 8:01:47 PM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: mandaladon
Can Iraq be saved?

"Iraq" couldn't be saved in 1921.

Now? Don't be ridiculous.

26 posted on 05/18/2015 8:05:51 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: mandaladon

McCain just cannot help himself. He must dream of sending more men and weapons to the Middle East every night. One has to wonder how much money this creep gets from the MIC.


27 posted on 05/18/2015 8:23:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: mandaladon

If one side is really losing, give it a little support—but only a little, to keep balance, bolster enthusiasm and the like.


28 posted on 05/18/2015 8:44:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: mandaladon

Can Iraq be saved?

Not with these yahoos running the show.


29 posted on 05/18/2015 10:04:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: VanDeKoik

The Kurds have the makings of a legit nation and they have been very good in taking in the Christians and Yazidis who have fled. Let them go indy.


30 posted on 05/19/2015 4:28:50 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mandaladon

Iraq as we know is pretty much is GONE. Let the Kurds have their nation, ISIS will control the areas they control. The shia area will go under Iran.


31 posted on 05/19/2015 4:31:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: VanDeKoik

“Anglo-French Construct” indeed so. We are seeing the unraveling of the Sykes-Picot agreement post WWI. No consideration of religious tribal or historical boundaries
We need to let the contestants burn each other out and stay away from any further involvement except containment


32 posted on 05/19/2015 5:05:23 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Biggirl

For now. The Assyrians still remember the Kurds participation in the genocide under the Ottomans.


33 posted on 05/19/2015 6:29:00 AM PDT by Shadow44
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But also the Kurds have not forgotten what Saddam has done against the Kurds also.


34 posted on 05/19/2015 6:41:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mandaladon

Iraq could be saved, but not by Obama, just as he is not saving Afghanistan from the Taleban nor saving anyone from Syrian chemical weapons.

The muslims in Iraq are about 65% Shia & 35% Sunni. ISIS is a Sunni org. Iran is predominantly Shia, governed by Shia mullahs.

My guess is that Iraq will become the battleground between ISIS & Iran; a long & bloody war much like the Iran/Iraq war, with atrocities being the norm on both sides. Both will be determined to eradicate the heretics on the other side.

ISIS really has nothing to lose that it hasn’t stolen already. If things get bad for them they can just pack up & go back home to the EU.

Iran, however, risks bankruptcy, what with western sanctions in place, a country to maintain, & a limited supply of weaponry & ammo. A long war would impoverish the country.

Obama will increasingly look like a timid, weak fool caught in the middle. There is little chance he will actually make a difference in the war with his pinprick strikes on ISIS.

I really don’t care which side wins; both are the epitome of evil. I just hope our adversaries in the world do not take advantage of Obama’s cowardice.

Note to black US neighborhoods: This is what happens when police no longer police your area, pack up & go home. Lot’s of innocent people die violent deaths as the thugs dance on the graves.


35 posted on 05/19/2015 7:37:44 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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