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Nine dead in violent clash between rival biker gangs at Texas restaurant.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 5/17/2015 | Mia De Graaf

Posted on 05/17/2015 3:56:32 PM PDT by dragnet2

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To: defconw
Just I don't trust anyone anymore. I must have seen it in person with my own two eyes.

I fully understand. Deceit rules the day.

301 posted on 05/18/2015 9:30:36 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude
True, but I'd wager a lot of these rednecks were out-of-towners.

Like the millions of illegals in Texas, I betcha they're all from CA. After the biker gang convention, they'll all head back.

BTW, these guys seem extra stupid as they stood out in a parking lot in broad day light shooting each other with cops standing around.

What we have here is industrial strength stupidity.

302 posted on 05/18/2015 9:31:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BeadCounter

http://ridesafeintexas.homestead.com/proclamations2011.html

This link shows, the Cossacks have participated in some of these proclamations for safe riding, see motorcycles events.

The way I’d see this would be the Bandidos probably had arms and used them, aren’t they saying all of the dead are the Cossacks and Scimitars?

Though the Cossacks logo is not a kindly symbol.

And then, the Police came in and broke it up, that’s the way I’d see it though I could be wrong, we don’t have enough info yet. Only speculation.


303 posted on 05/18/2015 9:32:50 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
Whoops! I did not notice your link #178 to the Southern Ontario massacre at Shedden. Well before I posted a rough outline. Just hearing about massive police arrests down in Texas of bikers. One figure was 165 of them. Hope they could find room in a jail.

Going to be quite a process to sort them all out, I would think. Still the law shows it's teeth here.

304 posted on 05/18/2015 9:38:10 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: BeadCounter

Bandidos Denton and Wichita Falls chapters as well in these “Ride Safe” events.

http://ridesafeintexas.homestead.com/proclamations2011.html

Also found something for Cossack Motorcycle Club out of Big Spring.

So this is pretty hard to call.

I do note that they closed that area off and as of 7 PM last night, bodies were still on the ground.

We’ve only seen pictures mainly of the Cossacks.


305 posted on 05/18/2015 9:43:04 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
I do note that they closed that area off and as of 7 PM last night, bodies were still on the ground.

Biker lives matter! They let those poor bikers' bodies lay in the sun for all that time; let's have a riot!

306 posted on 05/18/2015 10:48:15 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: dragnet2

This is one of the very few instances when I would approve of civil asset procedures.

Confiscate all the bikes and sell them at auction to overseas buyers. Don’t think it would be wise for a US citizen to purchase a bike that could be traced to them.


307 posted on 05/18/2015 10:58:13 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: mylife

Hannibal never took the city.


308 posted on 05/18/2015 11:30:39 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: BeadCounter

I used to live in Ventura CA, which I think is the Hell’s Angels headquarters? (Not sure, but that’s what I had heard.) Their bikes used to line the streets some weekends. Most of them seemed pretty harmless to me, but what do I know. I once was sitting in a little cafe on Main there and overheard a conversation between two of the guys... one was an older guy trying to convince a younger guy to buy the bike that they were out test-riding, which was parked outside. “But it’s pink! It’s a chick’s bike.” “You can paint it!” And it was... it was a hot pink Barbie bike, even though it was a Harley. It just made me laugh to overhear those two tough guys having that conversation over yuppie designer coffees.


309 posted on 05/18/2015 11:32:21 AM PDT by ponygirl (Put. A. Bird. On. It.)
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To: bgill

So! The “1%” doesn’t stand for the rich.


310 posted on 05/18/2015 11:58:26 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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WFAA has a good article with new info, making it sound this is a bit of a Turf War and the Cossacks NOT paying dues to the Bandidos to operate in the state, that kind of a deal, racketeering(?). Without further comment:

WFAA: http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/18/bulletin-tensions-bandidos-cossacks-rival-biker-gangs-texas/27531291/

“For months, there had been skirmishes and talk of a war between the Bandidos and Cossacks over money, turf and respect, according to a law enforcement bulletin obtained by News 8.

That talk escalated into open warfare on the streets of Waco Sunday afternoon during a biker gathering at a restaurant. Nine suspected gang members were killed and 18 others were injured in a confrontation between the two motorcycle gangs at the Twin Peaks restaurant on the south side of Waco.”

Violence between members of the Bandidos OMG and the Cossacks MC has increased in Texas with no indication of diminishing,” according to the bulletin. “The conflict may stem from Cossacks members refusing to pay Bandidos dues for operating in Texas and for claiming Texas as their territory by wearing the Texas bottom rocker on their vests, or ‘colors’ or ‘cuts.”


311 posted on 05/18/2015 12:05:44 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: ponygirl

Good story, funny. Thanks.

I’ve never come across any of the hard core biker types, have a friend who is a biker up the yazoo but not the trouble-making kind. He knows all this stuff.

There are motorcycle forums on the web which would probably be the place to go if people wanted to find out more.


312 posted on 05/18/2015 12:08:10 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: fwdude

“I see two types”

You left out the highway stunt riders.


313 posted on 05/18/2015 2:32:42 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: defconw

“Where is the blood? Where are the walking wounded? The pictures all seem staged to me. Just a bunch of guys sitting around looking at their phones? Seems very odd. “

I guess you missed the photos of the helicopters with the guys hanging out the sides with automatic weapons circling to make sure no one left.


314 posted on 05/18/2015 2:40:19 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dragnet2

“Like the millions of illegals in Texas, I betcha they’re all from CA. After the biker gang convention, they’ll all head back.”

I don’t think that is the case.


315 posted on 05/18/2015 3:02:22 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dragnet2
For the "most 'bikers' scratch dogs behind the ears" contingent, when I first moved to Tampa in the late '70's, there was still talk about the Outlaws crucifying a young girl in North Tampa some time in the not so distant past. I couldn't find that story, so I've just included a sample pulled at random from the little bit of their history that's net-accessible:
Most past biker violence in Central Florida has involved gang rivalries and rare crimes against victims outside the biker life. The worst example involved Joseph "Crazy Joe" Spaziano of Orlando, who terrorized Central Florida decades ago. A member of the Outlaws Motorcycle Club, Spaziano was suspected of killing at least eight people. Now 67, he remains imprisoned for life for raping and mutilating a woman and for the 1973 murder of Laura Lyn Herberts, an 18-year-old hospital clerk. Her body was found next to the unidentified remains of another teenage girl in an Altamonte Springs dump.
Just because I didn't have time to respond yesterday. There's plenty of sordid, despicable stories for the morbidly curious or not-so-obstinately denying.
316 posted on 05/18/2015 4:02:05 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: 9thLife

I have no idea what all that means, but thanks.


317 posted on 05/18/2015 4:06:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 9thLife

You find evil among all walks of life. That’s why we don’t call every doctor “Mengele,” every Priest a pedophile nor every Clown “Gacy.”

Don’t paint us all based on some sicko. Most of us would step in and intervene if we witnessed such an act.


318 posted on 05/18/2015 4:09:03 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I'm sure you and all your road warrior buddies are sweethearts, because you're not "bikers", even though you try to look like them.

You're not, any more than altar boys are gang members. Motorcycle gangs were exactly that. Just because some people ride motorcycles doesn't make them bikers. But for the love of Pete, quite pretending motorcycle gangs aren't motorcycle gangs.

Your biker fantasy doesn't make you a biker.

319 posted on 05/18/2015 4:18:31 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: TexasGator

Yes I did because both the media and the government are a freaking fraud! Nothing is as it appears. I guess you missed that the last 6 years.


320 posted on 05/18/2015 4:32:38 PM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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