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To: truth_seeker

“Capitalism continues under fascism, but not under communism.”

You may not have heard of this one communist nation called “the Peoples Republic of China”. It’s kind of small, you may not have heard of it.
And there’s another single party Communist country called Vietnam.
Both are rather famous for their capitalism and have many
privately owned businesses.

Your example falls apart. There is always this destructive desire to pretend that Nazis are some sort of an anti communist. Its a relic of cold war thinking, but nothing could be further from the truth. It’s destructive because it leads people to mistakenly see Nazis as facing a common enemy in communism.


40 posted on 05/10/2015 3:11:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

The only thing worse than a Fascist, is an Anti-Fascist.


41 posted on 05/10/2015 3:12:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DesertRhino

““Capitalism continues under fascism, but not under communism.”

You may not have heard of this one communist nation called “the Peoples Republic of China”. It’s kind of small, you may not have heard of it.
And there’s another single party Communist country called Vietnam.
Both are rather famous for their capitalism and have many
privately owned businesses.

Your example falls apart. There is always this destructive desire to pretend that Nazis are some sort of an anti communist. Its a relic of cold war thinking, but nothing could be further from the truth. It’s destructive because it leads people to mistakenly see Nazis as facing a common enemy in communism.”

My example was from the period in history under discussion.

Obviously since then communism in China and Vietnam has departed from those definitions, and would no longer be classified as communism.

China would be called something other than “communist” as would Russia, the eastern bloc satellites, etc.

They all took on or reverted to greater private ownership, of the factors of production.

Stronger arguments for similarities between Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia could probably be made along the lines of “command economy.” BTW

We would then be talking about BMW making airplane engines as ordered by the German federal government, and GM making Volts as suggested and incentivized by the American federal government.


47 posted on 05/10/2015 3:28:06 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: DesertRhino
The Chinese leadership is Marxist but they also realize that capitalism fuels their economy and world ambitions. I think they are becoming Imperialists by nature, Marxist in name only, and capitalists by necessity.

This makes them far more dangerous than a pure Marxist Nation.

50 posted on 05/10/2015 3:39:42 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: DesertRhino

That’s because China isn’t Communist anymore except in name. If Communism means anything at all, it means state ownership of the means of production. No country with private property millionaires and billionaires can be considered Communist in any real sense.


66 posted on 05/10/2015 4:48:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DesertRhino

China is no longer communist. Communes are no more. It is more fascist now. Vietnam is going that way too.


80 posted on 05/10/2015 8:31:55 PM PDT by chopperman
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