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RAF to get £2billion fleet of jets to spot Putin's nuclear submarines off British coast
Sunday Express, U.K. ^ | May 10, 2015 | ROB VIRTUE

Posted on 05/10/2015 6:01:14 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

David Cameron and George Osborne will be persuaded to part with the cash to buy a fleet of jets to hunt Vladimir Putin's nuclear submarines, which have regularly been patrolling the coast of Britain in recent months.

Often the Russian underwater vessels have only been discovered after colliding with private boats and now Government ministers are eager to plug the gap in defences with aircraft to track them.

Around a dozen top of the range planes will be bought for the RAF over the next two years.

These are likely to include the US developed Boeing Poseidon P8, designed for 'long-range anti-submarine warfare' and worth around £150million each.

The P8 jets look for magnetic fields under the water's surface.

Despite the promise of more austerity cuts in the coming months, the Government has been persuaded to invest in submarine detection due to increased aggression by Putin's forces.

BOEING

The Boeing Poseidon P8 is likely to join the RAF's fleet in the next two years

The most recent saw a fishing boat almost sunk off the Isle of Man when a submarine got caught in its net last month.

A similar incident involved a trawler just off the coast of Scotland weeks earlier.

A senior defence source told The Sun: "There have been several occasions in the last five years where foreign submarines have entered British water.

"They have been detected more by chance than anything else because we have no means of monitoring their activity."

A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said the "full spectrum of submarine detection capability" would be reviewed this year.

Yesterday, Putin displayed the full scale of the military power available to him during the annual Victory Day parade in Moscow's Red Square.

The ex-KGB spy also accused the West of "ignoring" international rules in a speech likely to inflame tensions with Western powers.

Relations between Russia and Britain, the US and their Nato allies are at their lowest point since the end of the Cold War following Putin's invasion of Ukraine's Crimea region last year.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; asw; boeing; p8; p8a; raf

1 posted on 05/10/2015 6:01:14 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is that really the best way to track submarines?


2 posted on 05/10/2015 6:13:50 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m surprised that the RAF never purchased P-3 Orion aircraft to begin with.


3 posted on 05/10/2015 6:14:02 AM PDT by patro
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To: patro; sukhoi-30mki

They hand the Avro Shackleton that filled that role for decades. And the Nimrod may have been its successor until retired a few years ago.


4 posted on 05/10/2015 6:16:16 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: sukhoi-30mki


5 posted on 05/10/2015 6:21:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: patro
I’m surprised that the RAF never purchased P-3 Orion aircraft to begin with.

They had their own Maritime patrol aircraft, based on the old "Comet" airliner. They phased it out due to cuts in defense spending, and apparently never replaced it.

6 posted on 05/10/2015 6:30:43 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Wasn’t aware that any version of the Comet was still around.


7 posted on 05/10/2015 6:44:59 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s about time the UK stepped up.
Having to call on FRANCE a few months for help looking for subs off the UK coast was very embarrassing for the Brits.

From what I saw of the UK election, expect the SNP and libs to scream bloody murder about it.


8 posted on 05/10/2015 7:24:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s barely five years since the complete production run, including I think several nearly-ready planes, of an updated version of the Nimrod was scrapped in the same round of cuts which ditched the Harriers.


9 posted on 05/10/2015 9:18:19 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Would be a cool idea to bring back the old PBY Catalina flying boats


10 posted on 05/10/2015 10:52:39 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: CrazyIvan

Only the Nimrod’s wing derives from the Comet IV. The Nimrod has been a superb multi-role maritime aircraft for 40 years until 2010. Loitering capabilities particularly impressive.


11 posted on 05/10/2015 12:29:50 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: patro
I’m surprised that the RAF never purchased P-3 Orion aircraft to begin with.

The RAF had the Nimrod, a truly outstanding anti-submarine aircraft in its own right.

12 posted on 05/10/2015 12:34:03 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The P8 jets look for magnetic fields under the water's surface.

I thought that was an optional extra

13 posted on 05/10/2015 8:07:23 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Sub-editors: totes unnecessary.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

It’s my understanding that the P-8A does not have a “magnetic anomaly detection” capability, but the P-8I (India/International) does.


14 posted on 05/18/2015 1:05:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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