[OneWingedShark]

If only the govt would have prevented 9-11 there would have been no incentive or justification for a Patriot Act or for govt to expand the surveillance. Everything changed after 9-11 to the detriment of the USA public in many ways.

This statement itself, combined with how the government has headlong barreled into totalitarianism,* is the best evidence for the government was responsible for 9/11 I have seen. Look at all this; it didn't just grow, it was planned.

* — Remember when the NSA's domestic espionage came to light via Mr. Snowden? Remember how the Congress, instead of acting against the agency, defended it?
These are not the actions of leaders who are displeased with their subordinates, they are actions taken to protect their subordinates from lawful punishment… to what end?

[Smokin' Joe]

These are not the actions of leaders who are displeased with their subordinates, they are actions taken to protect their subordinates from lawful punishment… to what end?

Displeased or not, they know the NSA has the 'goods' on them, too. When none is without sin, they aren't exactly lining up to throw rocks.