Posted on 05/06/2015 2:28:36 PM PDT by Kaslin
Things have changed under Obama. They changed a lot under other failed presidents, too. It doesn't mean they were successful.
Got it.
Lots of us are supporting the Cruz campaign with volunteer time and lots of money. We're working hard to make sure Cruz is the winner.
/johnny
Explain Abraham Lincoln to us, Donald. He wasn’t a governor, a senator, cabinet secretary, vice-president or a military flag officer.
Obama success is due to a Praetorian Media gurad complex. Big Media made him successful.
In some ways, and him voicing support to boot, I understand your thoughts there. And certainly compared to Obama, some pretty despicable people would begin to look a lot better.
There was always a problem in the back of my mind, allowing Iran to train and support terrorists in Iraq without retaliation.
We chose to install a leader in Iraq that had lived in Iran for a long time. That was just too cozy for me.
So at some point it began to cause me to wonder why Bush would talk about support for our troops, and then let Iran undermine our efforts without penalty.
Was he as supportive of our troops as he could have been? I lean toward no. I don’t know why, but there was something very fishy about the whole Iran thing.
Another thing that bothered me, was Bush not demanding war reparations from Iraq. We went in and removed a terrible leader. We built up infrastructure on our dime. We bent over backwards to be kind and supportive to the Iraqis.
And then we took a complete pass on Iraq paying at least some (and why not all) of our costs. Why?
Bush had an obligation to be the leader of the U. S. and support it to be as healthy as it could be. Instead he took a pass on trillions of reimbursements from Iraq.
Then he allowed a melt-down here also. Ultimately I think of this as Bush being charged to look after the nation while he had some of our best and brightest off fighting a way.
Did he look after things at home for our troops?
Not in my opinion he didn’t.
He allowed 30,000 Saudi Arabian citizens to come to the U. S. on student visas after 09/11, when 19 of them changed our world.
I have some serious issues with Bush, and I think we should have been involved in Iraq.
Lincoln was a bloody tyrant. No experience necessary.
I know where you’re coming from, but for the purposes of this discussion, he is rated #1 by almost all historians.
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Cruz or Lose!
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Of course the man that ripped the constitution out by its roots is rated #1 by the novacain heads.
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There are two different things involved.
One is how well a president can achieve his or her goals.
The other is whether those goals were right or wrong, that is, whether you agree with them or not.
We ought to be able to discuss whether somebody has been able to execute the powers of the office effectively and achieve the goals they set for themselves whether or not we agree with them.
Otherwise, what? We pick people we agree with who fail miserably in office?
Some people just aren't going to get it, but is it really that hard?
I give you Governor JERRY “MOONBEAM” BROWN.
Being a governor with executive experience is not necessarily a good thing.
I am a native Californian and I have never seen this state as F#CKED UP as it is under DELTA SMELT/CARBON CREDIT BROWN.
He had to destroy the village to save the village.
News Flash, noobie! He’s a demonrat and I have never voted for one and never will? Have you?
Nation building is not a viable idea. I’m glad Cruz doesn’t support it.
Good call. The following is OBVIOUS:
1) Carson needs to understand that the Second Amendment also applies to people that live in the ENTIRE United States ...no matter how threatened he feels when he tries to go out to dinner a block or two off of the John’s Hopkins University campus.
2) Huckabee needs to learn that felons that are CONVICTED AND SENTENCED to do decades in jail are really bad people, and should stay there - rather than being released to maim and kill again.
3) Jeb needs to learn that opening our borders and flooding this country with even more ILLEGALS is not a good idea...at least if he believes in America in the first place.
4) Walker needs to learn that running for president is the BIG LEAGUES and that it’s a good idea to have a position on Amnesty BEFORE you run, rather than ‘develop’ a position after you announce.
5) Paul needs to learn that VIOLENT FELONS will likely still NOT vote Republican, even if he frees them from our jails (due to their ‘misrepresentation’ as he sees it) and then lets them vote.
6) Christie needs to learn that taking guns from law-abiding people is probably not the best way to win the Republican nomination.
7) Fiorina needs to learn that running a company BANKRUPT is probably not a resume-enhancer when the current president is doing all that he can to achieve the same goal for this country.
8) Gram needs to learn that Republicans generally prefer straight people to represent them...rather than apologists for the Obama Adminstration
9) Jindal needs to understand that TAKING THE BAIT of federal money from the Obama Administration (i.e., Common Core) is REALLY DUMB. He needs to get his instincts updated.
10) Perry needs to understand that his record in Texas shows that he was FAR FROM CONSERVATIVE, and he needs to change that impression, as opposed to calling us “heartless”.
11) Rubio needs to learn that there is NO WAY he will be forgiven for nearly FLOODING THIS COUNTRY WITH ILLEGALS, despite campaigning as a conservative in 2012. It will take DECADES of good, conservative, voting in the Senate before we ever trust him for the top job.
12) Santorum needs to understand that he will NEVER WIN with that name...even if he seems conservative.
So I guess there’s only ONE PERSON LEFT, which is Cruz. Sounds good to me!
You don’t like Japan?
You don’t like South Korea?
You don’t approve of our support for Israel?
You don’t approve of a Free Europe?
You don’t approve of the Philippines.
Why don’t you approve of nation building?
Must of the Western World exists based in part on the fact the U. S. got involved and helped nation build to one degree or another.
I'm with you. Already sent $$$, will donate time too.
You left out one of the governors touted in the original article. May I supplement your list?
13) Kasich needs to learn that, in an election that will be partly about repealing Obamacare, you can’t pull a Romney and run against Obamacare after going along with it in your own state, especially if you had to cheat to do so: “He had to circumvent his own Republican legislature to do it, but Ohio’s Republican governor, John Kasich, succeeded Monday in a year-long quest to expand his state’s Medicaid program under the Affordable Care Act.” From http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ohio-medicaid-expansion
I’m not as down on Santorum as you are but otherwise I agree.
I think of nation building in terms of setting up democracy’s and assisting parties to power, There is some humanitarian aid involved, but our attempts at nation building in the middle east have failed, in part because of premature withdrawal and not leaving a stabilizing force behind. The Middle East is too fragmented between tribal factions to be effective in setting up an enduring government.
The countries you list are those in which we still have presence, but those nations are stable and functioning in their own right. I don’t think the Middle East will ever be that stable.
Walker had to circumvent his state legislature to implement Obamacare, also.
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