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To: DiogenesLamp
You have too narrow of an understanding of what constitutes a chemical weapon. If a nation dropped gas on us that turned our population into suicidal zombies, you wouldn't doubt that this is a chemical weapon. The only difference between this and what we have now is the delivery mechanism.

Ridiculous, there is a difference — I do not will to have drugs and so I don't. (This can be illustrated in the cases where I do will to have a drug like, [e.g.] a beer or an aspirin, and so do.) — when I was in the Army, an exposure to chemical attack was a distinct possibility, and one I would not will to have.

Your assertion that the only difference is the delivery mechanism completely devalues personal responsibility and accountability because it implicitly denies free will.

It [Wickard/Commerce-clause] isn't a very good justification, but they don't have to fight any new court battles to use it, so they just use it. This doesn't mean that their activity isn't authorized elsewhere in the Constitution. In my opinion, the war on drugs is authorized in the part that provides for the common defense, and specifically defense against enemies both foreign and domestic.

That is a very dubious assertion, especially when there is an actual and far more solid case of national defense that is being ignored: the invasion (aka undocumented immigrants).
...but if the government isn't going to respond correctly to the more straightforward case, why should it go for the far more obscure/questionable case?
Indeed, if it is a national defense problem, why would you be more vitriolic about drugs than an actual invasion?

132 posted on 05/04/2015 10:53:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Ridiculous, there is a difference — I do not will to have drugs and so I don't.

People who have been infected by drugs no longer have a functioning will.

Your assertion that the only difference is the delivery mechanism completely devalues personal responsibility and accountability because it implicitly denies free will.

You are familiar with the consequences of a chemical addiction? Free will is the first casualty.

That is a very dubious assertion, especially when there is an actual and far more solid case of national defense that is being ignored: the invasion (aka "undocumented immigrants").

A failure to comply with one defense, does not justify a failure to comply with another defense. Yes, you are right, we should be stopping illegal immigration, but we should also be stopping drug distribution. Just because we fall down on one job, doesn't mean we should fall down on the other.

Indeed, if it is a national defense problem, why would you be more vitriolic about drugs than an actual invasion?

You have not heard me rant about illegal immigration, but rest assured I do. We should make the border a free fire zone with automated guns and remote cameras, the same way Israel protects their border. We need to toss people in jail who knowingly hire illegals. We need to deny any sort of public assistance to illegals. We should not recognize their children born here as citizens. We need to deport them back to their home country as soon as they finish their mandatory jail term for sneaking into the country illegally.

But again, just because this nation is completely blowing it's response to illegal immigration, it does not justify being incompetent regarding drug distribution as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.

138 posted on 05/04/2015 11:04:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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