Posted on 04/30/2015 10:38:54 AM PDT by QT3.14
When police spotted Freddie Gray and he took off running through his Baltimore neighborhood, officers made a split-second decision to give chase, setting in motion his death in custody and rioting in the streets.
Fleeing from police is not, by itself, illegal in America, and the U.S. Supreme Court has made clear that in safe neighborhoods, people not suspected of criminal activity can ignore a police officer who approaches them, even to the point of walking away.
But courts have set a different standard for places where street crime is common, ruling that police can chase, stop and frisk people if their location contributes to a suspicion of criminal activity.
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Grammatically speaking, yes.
As I understand it, Gray wasnt arrested for running but for possession of a switchblade knife. I dont know why this should be illegal, but it would certainly land a white guy in jail, no questions asked.
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Yes, but he was initially detained for running. Had that not happened, he would not have been arrested (because the officers would not have searched him and found the knife).
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So the question is, “Should they have detained simply him for running prior to his arrest?” The answer may depend on whether other circumstances were present (dangerous neighborhood, suspicious bulge in pocket seen while running, etc.) Anyway, Gray’s supporters have been claiming that he was arrested simply for running.
186,000 mi/sec. 10-4.
Signs.
They should be required to put up signs.
“This is a Safe Neighborhood”
or
“This is NOT a Safe Neighborhood”
That way we will know whether the monumentally stupid rulings by the SCOTUS apply or not.
Which on of those is a summary death penalty offense?
Thyyd have to have probable cause, if the blade wasnt visible not sure how theyd get that.
Yes, it’s called suicide by cop!
At 60 You still could give it a try !
Yes. We are living in JBT world, now. America is gone.
Scotus says one can walk away from police. Someone could be running away for a diferent reason. If they dont appear to see the cops and run away it is different than someone who clearly sees the police and then runs away. I could see in the latter case an officer believing they have probable cause.
But if someone walks away they may be eaf or didnt know the police were talking to them, or did hear them and did not want to talk to the police. i csn envision scenarios where I would not decide to stop and talk to police. if you are not involved or a criminal you don’t have to unles they can detain you. Then you ask to leave.
I hope some cop shoots you, or at the very least kicks the shit out of you!
Why? Because I no longer trust the police? Because I choose to assert my rights? Why do you advocate an illegal action on a US Citizen?
Nobody deserves to die in police custody. Once he is subdued it is their job to protect him.
I understand the frustration police feel when they keep arresting someone who is causing havoc in the neighborhood and the judges keep sending them back to the streets.
If the police caused this boys death, they need to face justice like anybody else. Let's wait for the facts.
So say the police that broke his neck. His family claims it was a legal folding knife. Given the nature of both parties I have no reason to believe either. However until I see the knife I defer to the citizen.
Why do you hope that?
So as usual the SCOTUS has made it a muddle. One would have to memorize a block-by-block map of crime rates to know whether blowing off a cop is legal or not.
My wife's step father was an ex-cop. A great guy with a twisted sense of humor. He used to wear a black T-shirt...sometimes to family functions...that had a white chalk outline of a body with the caption:
"Why run? You'll only die tired."
I’m pretty sure running would be a hell of lot worse for my health than having a conversation with a cop; if for some reason I didn’t feel like engaging the cop, a brisk walk is all I’m risking.
So say that the police broke his neck. What difference does it make whether or not the knife was legal? Is possession of an illegal switchblade a capital offense now? Do we now execute the death penalty without the necessity of all that foolish due process crap? Are we really in favor of allowing our police officers the power of life and death over the citizenry?
Despite the impediments put in place by politicians and do gooders the police and military still use common sense when they can get away with it.
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