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To: Cincinatus' Wife

FWIW, a very respected Salvation Army colonel told an audience I was part of, that lack of diligence on the part of the poverty sufferer was “usually” not the reason for his or her suffering. If we look at what the Obama regime has done to business, I think we can understand why. Proverbs outline situations that are common enough to merit consideration, i.e. if you have a problem, was it because you forgot about thus and such a factor? They are not foolproof or guarantee even to be dispositive the majority of the time.

By taking a rigid position on the issue (all or nothing), no discussion can happen involving either left or right here.

Most policies like this require that the identified addict go for treatment to qualify for benefits, not flatly deny them.

States that have done this and later abandoned it have done so not for moral but fiscal reasons. They found that the cost of the program was much higher than what it fiscally saved.

Typically, it takes a whole country with the “diligence” to care about God (that means you and me too) to come back into prosperity and sanity. And this means dealing with the Lord at the level of a person, not some hypothetical foil for right- or left- or anything else-wing moralists.


3 posted on 04/27/2015 12:40:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; clearcarbon; All
Kevin D. Williamson (National Review) does a great job of connecting the dots - describing the Millennial condition and contrasting it to Gen X and Baby Boomers. It is WELL WORTH a full read [broken into 3 sections so be sure to keep reading; total length no longer than a 2 1/2 page printed article].

"Generation Vexed: The downwardly mobile Millennials may be waking up at last"

"...............Conservatives will never out-snark, out-mock, or out-tweet the popular culture that embraced Barack Obama as a semi-religious icon. But Millennials are right at the beginning of what promises to be an unpleasant, extended encounter with the facts of life, and it may be that they will soon figure out that there is more to understanding those facts than snark and emojis. Mocking them would be easy, while persuading them will prove difficult and frustrating, because conservatism, unromantic disposition that it is, is in the end an exercise in calculating a balance of human imperfections. The Millennials do not understand that — not quite yet."

5 posted on 04/27/2015 12:56:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Check this out:

January 2015: Walker budget to bar drug users from food stamps, Medicaid "Madison — With federal approval in doubt, Gov. Scott Walker is moving ahead with his campaign pledge to ensure that drug users aren't getting public health care, food stamp or jobless benefits.

As Walker explores a 2016 presidential bid, the proposal being included in the governor's Feb. 3 budget bill will help him sell himself to GOP primary voters as a leader committed to overhauling the core programs of government.

For the first time Thursday, Walker committed to drug testing recipients of BadgerCare Plus health coverage and also pledged free treatment and job training for those testing positive for drugs.

But the governor offered no details on how the state would cover the costs of that or the testing or whether he expected it to cost the state money overall, as a similar program did in Florida, or save tax dollars. The budget, he said in a statement, would also drop to four years from five the limit on how long a recipient could be in the Wisconsin Works, or W-2, program, the replacement in this state for traditional welfare.

"We know employers in Wisconsin have jobs available, but they don't have enough qualified employees to fill those positions," Walker said. "With this budget, we are addressing some of the barriers keeping people from achieving true freedom and prosperity and the independence that comes with having a good job and doing it well."

The governor said the drug-testing proposal would apply only to able-bodied adults, not the elderly or children, and would include transitional jobs initiatives. Walker wants to test all FoodShare and BadgerCare applicants but limit the drug testing for unemployment benefits to certain applicants.

The idea expands on another requirement passed by Walker and Republicans in 2013 to make able-bodied FoodShare recipients receive job training.".....

7 posted on 04/27/2015 1:11:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HiTech RedNeck

your post is incoherent

what are you trying to say?


23 posted on 05/19/2015 7:26:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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