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Jury In Etan Patz Murder Asks For Computer With Excel To Organize Thoughts
CBS New York ^

Posted on 04/23/2015 6:20:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The jury in the Etan Patz murder trial went through a seventh day of deliberations Thursday.

Pedro Hernandez, 54, confessed to killing the 6-year-old boy in May 1979. He said he lured Patz into a bodega basement and strangled him.

The defense, however, says Hernandez is mentally ill and made up the story.

The jury asked for a computer with Excel Thursday to create a spreadsheet to organize its thoughts, WCBS 880’s Irene Cornell reported.

The judge granted the request joked he’ll say no if they ask for a coffee maker.

Jurors were dismissed for the day around 4:45 p.m., CBS2’s Jessica Schneider reported. No verdict has been reached.

On Wednesday, the jury asked for clarification on the law surrounding confessions.

Jurors also asked for a list of witnesses, exhibits and agreements that both sides made on matters of evidence, 1010 WINS’ Juliet Papa reported.

The jury may have signaled it’s considering evidence having to do with convicted pedophile Jose Ramos, the man the defense cast as a more likely predator than the defendant, WCBS 880’s Irene Cornell reported. The defense has pointed repeatedly to Ramos as the real suspect. Ramos denied involvement. However, a former federal prosecutor and FBI agent testified that Ramos told investigators he was “90 percent” sure a boy he took from a park was Etan, and Hernandez’s former prison cellmate testified that Ramos admitted molesting the boy.

Prosecutors argued that while Ramos may be a convicted pedophile, investigators never found enough evidence to ever charge him in Etan’s disappearance.

Jurors are deciding whether Hernandez is guilty or not on three separate charges: second-degree murder, felony murder and kidnapping.

The two different murder charges result from different theories under the law. If the jury finds that Hernandez deliberately killed Etan, they will convict him on second-degree murder charges.

If the panel decides Etan’s death resulted from actions during the course of a kidnapping, they will find him guilty on the felony murder charge.

Each of the three charges is punishable by 25 years to life in prison.

Etan’s photo was one of the first to be featured on milk cartons and the day he went missing became National Missing Children’s Day.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: etan; etanpatz; patz

1 posted on 04/23/2015 6:20:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

That is an interesting and valid request


2 posted on 04/23/2015 6:21:25 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: nickcarraway

As an Excel lover, I am quite impressed.


3 posted on 04/23/2015 6:23:38 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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4 posted on 04/23/2015 6:23:57 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for this article. Somehow I missed that he was being prosecuted. I’ve read most things on the Etan Patz case. It was so heartbreaking.

Not sure how they’ll decide if he’s guilty or not because there seems to be a fair bit of stuff pointing at Ramos too.


5 posted on 04/23/2015 6:30:46 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: nickcarraway
Let's hope they come back with and Excel-ent verdict.
(Sorry)
6 posted on 04/23/2015 6:31:24 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: leapfrog0202

36 years.


7 posted on 04/23/2015 6:34:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The question is how many of the jury are mentally ill too.

They want to play with spreadsheets.

Since there is ABSOLUTELY no chance of an innocent verdict, all these cretins are doing is trying to stretch jury duty into the middle of next week.


8 posted on 04/23/2015 6:34:43 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Rome2000

There’s no chance? So you are saying the jury is made up of criminals?


9 posted on 04/23/2015 6:35:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
NYC jurys are comprised of useless morons who are mostly on welfare or work for city/state/fed government and aren't missed in the slightest while they are gone.

They are not criminals, just GIBSMEDATS.

They are probably conspiring to take this to Memorial Day.

10 posted on 04/23/2015 6:43:21 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Rome2000

So you think this defendant is innocent and they are going to unfairly convict him?


11 posted on 04/23/2015 6:44:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Rome2000

You don’t sound like a conservative.


12 posted on 04/23/2015 6:44:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Not at all.

90% of NYC residents are guilty of something or other, we’d all be better off as a nation if the entire population was behind bars.

For life.


13 posted on 04/23/2015 7:05:23 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: nickcarraway

“Anybody remember how to convert a range to a table?”
“What’s this Formula is invalid message?”
“No, no, no. You want to use B2 not $B$2. Otherwise the cell reference is absolute.”
“How do I set the background color?”
“Check google. They probably have a 10 minute YouTube video on how to do a pivot table.”


14 posted on 04/23/2015 7:47:47 PM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: nickcarraway

A spreadsheet is the wrong too for organizing thoughts. An outline processor would be helpful


15 posted on 04/23/2015 8:14:32 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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