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To: NetAddicted

The modern State of Israel is a creation of financial elites, a.k.a., new world order.

It does not welcome Christians who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ, only Christians who come as tourists.

Thus, though all things happen according to Providence, this nation is not yet corporately submitting itself to Christ (even as America is turning away from him also), and so we are unwise to see this as being yet in the final state described in Rommans 11. This is not a nation covenanted with Christ, but a nation devised by a few elite men’s hearts and minds.

Politically the modern state of Israel primarily has a socialist/communist bent, which is what new world order set in motion there and prefers. The worlds’ financial elites, children of the Devil, prefer communism where they can install it. There is, however, strong participation in global trade and finance in that modern state, so, even though there is a socialist bent, trade and commerce flourish as well. But of course, this does not a Christian nation make, as we know all too well in America.

The political, business and cultural leadership, and intelligence services of the modern state of Israel are certainly well tied-in with the new world order network. The same can be said of the major powers of the East and West, i.e., Russia, China, the “five eyes” countries, and Europe. The UK is the traditional “lead” new world order country, and was instrumental, of course, in the set up of the modern state of Israel. All of these “governments” are really essentially “fronts” for new world order, which controls them through financing of their governments and independent, private, new world order “proprietary” espionage, that is, espionage planning and activities outside of any national intelligence service. New world order thus ensures that its minions are placed in the highest positions in the various intelligence services, so government intelligence activities can be suitably influenced for new world order’s advantage. These linkages are why new world order is so effective at stirring up trouble and then using that trouble to induce governments to take covert or overt action.

New world order has cleverly corrupted Evangelical Christian doctrine in this regard, primarily, as well as other denominations, into a reflex-like American political backing for the modern state of Israel. This helps new world order to garner American political support for their use of the US military in the middle east, i.e., America must defend Israel because of some Biblical exhortation or command, which is patently untrue - since Biblically, the modern state of Israel at this point is a heathen nation that rejects Jesus Christ.

While some heathens are friendlier than others, some may be more reasonable than others, etc., the bottom line Biblically is certainly that corporate rejection of Christ means the corporate body is under no protection of God and is subject to chastisement in the case of Israel, wrath in the case of pagan nations.

Many American Christians, strongly deluded and misled by false teaching regarding eschatology, overlook the basic fact that the modern state of Israel is anti-Christ.

This is not to say that nations that are anti-Christ must or should be militarily attacked based on that fact, as the subduing of the nations under Christ’s dominion is a spiritual conquering, not a martial one.

Most certainly Romans 11 and other parts of Scripture are clear that, though the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 was a clear sign of, in effect, a spiritual divorce, that - after the “fullness” of the Gentiles, the Jewish people as a corporate body (not necessarily every single person, but a noticeable large number) will turn to Christ, and thus be restored and brought back into the community of the children of God (this is clearly stated in Romans 11).

While we should wish peace for everyone that is peaceable, we should not allow ourselves to be goaded into illegitimate military actions which in reality are new world order missions. Arguably the most egregious recent case is the “war” and occupation of Afghanistan, which was and is for the purpose of protection for the illegal side of new world order’s global opium business.

Of course there would be no righteousness by default in siding with a Muslim country against a Jewish one, as they both are anti-Christ, so I’m not saying that any anti-Israel side of a debate should be ours by default.

What in reality goes on behind the scenes at the highest levels of international relations, which is most difficult for the conservative rank-and-file to understand well in context, is that there are close political, intelligence and business ties between both sides of the Israel-Islamic conundrum - so much so that at the highest levels of government, America is, in effect, the closest of “friends” with both the Israeli and the Muslim sides. Many conservatives in the rank-and-file in America simply write that off as a “liberal mistake”, and go on with their quixotic wishing for wanton destruction of Muslim countries and naive carte-blanche for the modern state of Israel. Yet the fact stares us in the face that this “liberal mistake” of being tried-and-true allies of Muslim countries is passed on generation to generation of the Bush family, quite literally the leading conservative political family in America, not to mention all the elites of the American business world - a supposed realm of “elite conservatives”.

Perhaps no one is more ill-advised by those who lead us culturally than American Jews themselves. Despite being in their minds the most “in-the-know” on the subject from wisdom handed down generation to generation, from cultural leaders certainly among those most well-placed in society - they, like their Christian sheeple counterparts, spare no effort in keeping their fingers in their ears, eyes closed, and loudly repeating “la la la”, so as to keep any concept of the machinations of new world order’s elites filtered from their consciousness.

The Bible clearly tells us that we are to live peaceably with our neighbors, so much as it is up to us.

The Bible is also clear that forced or tricked conversions to Christ are not conversions at all, they are just a cruel lie.

The Bible is clear that we should simply be spreading the Gospel message through quoting from Scripture and testifying, that such is how Christ is subduing the nations in time and history.

We certainly must be patient in this regard, according to Scripture, as things happen in God’s good time.

I would simply remind my fellow Christians to be on guard spiritually, in our hearts and minds, for, as in the time of Jesus Christ’s earthly ministry, corrupted religious leaders can sometimes be the most ardent anti-Christ deceivers, whose father is the father of lies. And frequently such corrupt religious leaders will have the closest and darkest alliances with similiarly corrupted political, business and cultural leaders.


18 posted on 04/22/2015 9:10:42 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

1John4 describes how we can tell antichrist deceivers....the simply deny that Jesus was the Christ come in the flesh....they deny that he is man and God and the only way to Salvation. Eziekiel 37-38 speaks of Israel’s secularism being reversed on account of God moving supernaturally to save them. Ezekiel 7 describes Israel as a valley of dry bones.

You mention Romans 11....yes it was true that these “olive branches were taken out to allow the gentiles to be grafted in. Butr you need to take the chapter as a whole. Paul said they were taken out because of unbelief an he warned the gentiles that the same could happen to them as well. You failed to mention the versus after verse 26 which does speak of an actual redemption of Jews and Israel proper...

“25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

27
And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[g]

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.”

Do you think any nation is created without the express will of the Father? God manipulated the evil Heart of Pharoah, do you not think NWO types are not similarly being “worked around”? The God of Deep Heaven has cast his nets and the fish will be caught up and left flapping on the rocks in stunned surprise! Is it so impossible that God should declare, Israel will be a nation forever, and have the ability make it so?

All Israel will be saved, the nation restored, and the Messiah will rule out of Jerusalem in the millennial reign!


21 posted on 04/22/2015 9:36:51 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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